sorry to post this in the R forum but i know a lot of u R guys do this at the track. i hear u can gain 1-3hp, but is it worth the minimal gains for a street car?? any opinions and or positive/negative feedback is welsome. thanks

 

I disconnected mine back in the day when i was a drag ricer, err racer, and it did make a difference, now i have the whole system removed because i grew to like the feel of a manual rack for road race/auto-x, but i dont mind the few extra hp or weight reduction.

 

Big strong arms make ladies happy!

Rguy, who when the ladies tough his biceps, always flexes

 

was also wondering if its ok to run w/ just the belt off or do i have to take the whole PS rack out??

 

You can run just with the belt off, but steering effort is VERY high. Not too bad though, considering i drove around like that for over a year.

 

I hate having the belt off, it sucked. It felt unsafe going around corners because there was so much effort needed. And I felt no difference in power. in fact, to me, it felt slower because the car seemed so much "heavier",

But i have no problems with a manual rack honda. My cx was fun to whip around in corners.


[Modified by scott_k, 5:17 PM 7/23/2002]

 

I think running without draining the fluid can cause your ps system to spring a leak. My ps has a small leak, and I am almost positive disconnecting the ps without draining caused the leak.

 

Maybe not. All I know is that my PS is leaking slowly.

 

thanks for the comment, any body know for sure if runnin with no PS belt will cause the system to leak or have something go wrong with it?

 

Should not be an issue.

You should so a search - this topic comes up every two weeks.

 

No leaks what so ever.

I drove from here to Watkins Glen (NY), on track for 2 days and had no issues what so ever.

I remove it for the 2-3 free hp and stability under heavy brake application.

Will

 

Hmm..... Maybe I should consider this as I'm taking it to the track soon...

 

Maybe the combination of P/S and A/C would make a nice difference,but one or the the other would be a compermise!

 

Is there any problem with not having the A/C belt on for a few days? How about long term?


[Modified by SoCal ITR, 8:34 PM 7/23/2002]

 

I'm fairly certain that removing the belt isnt any better (power wise) than just turning the AC off....

 

I was thinking about that, I mean I'm sure there's some slight drag from the belt alone, but with the A/C off, I don't think it would be more than 1 hp at most.

 

AC
+/- 1hp

mines a daily driver, so priorities are slightly different. for a track only car, ditch the whole AC and PS setup, save weight

 

At the track, I try to always remove at least the power steering belt, sometimes both PS and AC belts. On the dyno, removing the PS belt did yield about 3HP to the wheels. The AC belt only took away 1HP.

 

Mine is too, thanks for all the input people.

 

I don't recommend taking the P/S belt off without draining the fluid or removing the pump.
With all the fluid inside it's very hard to steer and the fluid is blocking/dampening the forces that are working on the wheels so that you don't feel everything at the steering wheel.

 

I beg to differ... but my 'feel' may be different than yours and 'hard steering' is related to the driver.

Will

 

Well, did you try driving it without the fluid?
When I drained the fluid and remove the pump, the steering felt much more responsive and confident. The feedback is much better....

 

nope.

I have yet to take that next step.

I like beaing able to put the belt back on after the last session of the day and then driving home.

Will
-who would have prefered a manual rack on his ITR

 

I have removed the pump, reservoir, and looped the rack. It honestly doesn't feel any different than when I used to just remove the belt at events. The same amount of effort is required when stationary. I did the mod simply to rid my car of the weight, not to change the steering "feel". I love the way the steering feels on track without the p/s.

Jason-
who wishes dieting was as easy as reducing weight on his car was

 

werd , but it is different if you drain the fluid than just taking the belt off. i took ps out of my old gsr and liked it, but i don't like just taking the belt off. it's hard to keep one hand on my woman and one hand on the wheel wid no ps .


[Modified by ITR764, 8:41 AM 7/24/2002]