B18a1 Block - resurfaced
B20z Crank -resurfaced
B18b1 rods- Balanced
b16a2 pistons - brand new pr3's
B18b1 Head - shaved .003 -ported exhaust and intake (PORTMATCHED)
B18a1 Valve cover
B20z intake cam
B20b exhaust cam
B18a1 Intake manifold Bored out 68mm
68mm throttlebody
Removed iacv
Stock dizzy /with high output coil.
310 cc injectors
bored out fuel rail
Modified fuel pressure regulator
2"4-2-1 headers- 2.5" collector/downpipe
Custom cut long ram intake.
New Air Filter
New O2 sensor
New ACL main bearings
New NRP piston rings
New Bosch +4 Platinum spark plugs
New OEM honda oil filter
New OEM honda fuel filter
Gsr Cat
3" tsudo N1 catback 4"tip
Phearable.net Tuned p75 obd1 ecu


Tranny-
95 gsr bellhousing
94 ls outer housing
Itr 1st and 2nd
ls 3rd 4th and 5th
ITR final drive
gsr jdm limited slip (1.5)
titanium synchros (suregrip) *a bit whiney*
Brand new input shaft bearing
6k on all internals
blend of 140w-80 and SyncroMesh used
resurfaced flywheel
exedy stage 1 clutch and pressure plate 4k
93 ls intermediate shaft-
93 gs axles NEW

all this in a 95 civic 4door what do u think>?


Modified by allmotorRyan at 3:36 PM 8/20/2008

 

bump lmk

 

I think that trans will suck and the synchros would eat the gear cones and sliders very quickly.

The fluid used in the trans will quickly cause the bearings to fail.

Didn't mention reshimming the diff or mainshaft.

Why a short 2nd and long 3-4-5? 2-3 shift is going to drop RPM like crazy.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aquafina &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think that trans will suck and the synchros would eat the gear cones and sliders very quickly.

The fluid used in the trans will quickly cause the bearings to fail.

Didn't mention reshimming the diff or mainshaft.

Why a short 2nd and long 3-4-5? 2-3 shift is going to drop RPM like crazy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

is it a good motor setup what do u think i could get for whp out of it and im not putting that trans together it came in tha car

 

I'd pull the trans asap and inspect it.

Stock dizzy /with high output coil.
310 cc injectors Not needed
bored out fuel rail not needed
Modified fuel pressure regulator get a good one
2"4-2-1 headers- 2.5" collector/downpipe Get something better

Won't do much with a stock head and cams. Portmatching is not porting.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aquafina &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd pull the trans asap and inspect it.

Stock dizzy /with high output coil.
310 cc injectors Not needed
bored out fuel rail not needed
Modified fuel pressure regulator get a good one
2"4-2-1 headers- 2.5" collector/downpipe Get something better

Won't do much with a stock head and cams. Portmatching is not porting.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

what do u sugest i get ? ik im gunna get a 4-1 header into 3inch exhaust and im either gunna buy a vtec head or port and polish this one and build it idk lmk what u think would be a good setup il looking to make 200whp is that possible with this setup or what would i have to add?

 

200whp with the LS head...

Have someone good do the headwork, big cam, good header, good IM, more compression. Easier with a B20 block. 200 is quite a bit for an LS. Even easier with a VTEC head. Do a search for b19coupe.

 

Is there a reason your trying this abstract build? 310cc injectors should be used, it will help keep the injector duty cycle down. stock 240cc units aren't gonna wanna be pushed that far without turning up the fuel pressure to over 60psi. Your throttlebody is way oversized. and your intake manifold is undersized. 3" exhaust is gonna kill power. Just because the piping is bigger, that doesn't mean its better. This isn't a turbo car and not K-powered so you don't need that. This whole build is not worth doing unless you got plenty of money burning a hole in your pocket.

 

A pretty much stock LS is going to have a high duty cycle on 240's.... When pigs fly.

 

Aquafina I agree with you on a stock LS, but I am not talking about a stock LS. I am talking about the owner of the car wanting to make 200whp. 240cc injectors wouldn't by my choice. Check his post prior wanting to make 200whp. 240cc's just aren't a good idea. I am not sure why you don't do LS/VTEC with Skunk2 intake manifold, 81.5mm 11.5 compression pistons, with Skunk2 Pro 1s with valvetrain. Header selection, I am not sure of, maybe hytech replica. My only reason for this suggestion is my friend just got his car tuned and made 176whp on a B16 with pro 1s, skunk2 intake manifold, JDM ITR intake manifold, 2.25 exhaust. Stock compression ratio.

 

His post before the 200whp was the OP. Nothing in it that indicates he will need bigger than 240's.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allmotorRyan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B18a1 Block - resurfaced
B20z Crank -resurfaced
B18b1 rods- Balanced
b16a2 pistons - brand new pr3's
B18b1 Head - shaved .003 -ported exhaust and intake (PORTMATCHED)
B18a1 Valve cover
B20z intake cam
B20b exhaust cam
B18a1 Intake manifold Bored out 68mm
68mm throttlebody
Removed iacv
Stock dizzy /with high output coil.
310 cc injectors
bored out fuel rail
Modified fuel pressure regulator
2"4-2-1 headers- 2.5" collector/downpipe
Custom cut long ram intake.
New Air Filter
New O2 sensor
New ACL main bearings
New NRP piston rings
New Bosch +4 Platinum spark plugs
New OEM honda oil filter
New OEM honda fuel filter
Gsr Cat
3" tsudo N1 catback 4"tip
Phearable.net Tuned p75 obd1 ecu


Tranny-
95 gsr bellhousing
94 ls outer housing
Itr 1st and 2nd
ls 3rd 4th and 5th
ITR final drive
gsr jdm limited slip (1.5)
titanium synchros (suregrip) *a bit whiney*
Brand new input shaft bearing
6k on all internals
blend of 140w-80 and SyncroMesh used
resurfaced flywheel
exedy stage 1 clutch and pressure plate 4k
93 ls intermediate shaft-
93 gs axles NEW

all this in a 95 civic 4door what do u think&gt;?


Modified by allmotorRyan at 3:36 PM 8/20/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>


Looks good you might wanna try running some b18a/b18b 5 sp cams better!

 

that is the setup i curently have and it has 186 whp what could i cange beside vtec head to get a little above 200whp

 

 

how is that

 

186 whp with a stock head, cams, manifold, and probably a subpar header...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allmotorRyan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what do u sugest i get ? ik im gunna get a 4-1 header into 3inch exhaust and im either gunna buy a vtec head or port and polish this one and build it idk lmk what u think would be a good setup il looking to make 200whp is that possible with this setup or what would i have to add?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Aquafina this is the OPs post I was referring to.

 

why was your original post allmotorryan modified, you changed your injectors from 240cc to 310cc, hence mine and aquafinas misunderstanding. I don't believe this combo makes 186whp.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMThoughts &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why was your original post allmotorryan modified, you changed your injectors from 240cc to 310cc, hence mine and aquafinas misunderstanding. I don't believe this combo makes 186whp. </TD></TR></TABLE>

no i didnt chage it from 240 to 310cc i just put in that the car is a 4door and i will get some dyno sheets soon what do u think it makes?

 

this is what i was told about the trans and head ---1st and 2nd on the itr tranny is the midpoint between ls and gsr. along with the itr final drive they make for good long gears with a bit of acceleration. 3rd and 4th and 5th from the ls with the itr final drive makes for a bit quicker acceleration. mostly to keep the torque within the powerband for accelerating through the higher speeds. The head is portmatched, meaning it has been ported but only enought to match the flow coming from the intake ports and the exhaust flow into the headers. the intake is ported about 1.8mm and the exhaust 2.2mm.

 

ls/b20 cams are the same thing...btw.
Get a better manifold, dont stick to stock
No need for this "high output coil"
why in the hell would you bore a fuel rail?
ls rods dont need to be balanced, Just ARP rod bolts and ur good, their a strong rod as is..
b20/ls cranks are the same
310 injectors are safe.. you dont need anything bigger tho..

 

Whoever did the trans is a damn idiot. ITR has a shorter 2nd than GSR and LS (GSR and LS has the same 2nd), LS has the longest 3-4-5. He did the exact opposite of what should have been done, which is shorter gears and a longer final drive.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aquafina &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whoever did the trans is a damn idiot. ITR has a shorter 2nd than GSR and LS (GSR and LS has the same 2nd), LS has the longest 3-4-5. He did the exact opposite of what should have been done, which is shorter gears and a longer final drive.</TD></TR></TABLE>

it has a itr final drive i cant really complain im prob just get it take out the lsd he has in it and put in in a ls i have kicking around

 

What you have isn't good, but its better than an LS. I'd still tear it down and inspect it. Find some BVTEC 3-4-5 gears to put in or at least get a final drive.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ls/b20 cams are the same thing...btw.</TD></TR></TABLE>

nope b18b intake cams are bigger not by a redic. amount but they are tech. diff.
makes a diff in a boost setup..from exp.