i put some 205/40-17's on my 97 civic dx. everytime i hit a dip in the road i rub. i have adapters on the car which covert a 4x100 to a 4x114.3 its just a 1'' and doesnt really make a dif in my opinion.

so what can i do? should i order different tires for it?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thebleek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i put some 205/40-17's on my 97 civic dx. everytime i hit a dip in the road i rub. i have adapters on the car which covert a 4x100 to a 4x114.3 its just a 1'' and doesnt really make a dif in my opinion.

so what can i do? should i order different tires for it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You haven't mentioned wheel width or offset. Whatever the wheel offset is, you're effectively decreasing it by 25mm with the hub adapters. While your (incorrect) opinion is that it doesn't make a difference, the fact is that it makes a huge difference.

Changing tires will not improve your situation. You're going to need to buy wheels that actually fit your car. Otherwise, your only options are to modify the body for fender flares, or stop the suspension from moving.

 

so you spaced the wheel 1" and youre wondering why its rubbing?

it IS a big deal.

your choices are obvious.

 

ok well how do i fix all this?

i dont know the offset, they were wheels from an accord that were 4X114.3

cant i just roll my fender more underneath my car? its only the rear tires that are rubbing, the fronts are perfect

 

dont try to use wheels that dont fit.

 

my wheel is 17x7

 

even worse.

 

if your not going to help, then shut the f=== up

 

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chill bro, you came here for help so just soak it all in and listen.

Any 92-00 civic and/or 90--01 integra should not be running anything bigger than 16inch rims. Anything bigger than that will throw off your mpg. I'm assuming you have a semi stock dx which isn't pushing much hp. With a smaller rim/tire combo acceleration, handling, and mpg will improve. I'd suggest 15inch rims w/ either 195/50 or 205/50 tires. As for running adpaters, i wouldn't run any adapters at all. Its unsafe!

 

i have a 00 d16y8 motor swapped in with a stage 1 gude cam.

so its not just a stock non vtec motor.

so how the [freak] do i get rid of these? should i sell em on craigslist?

i thought 17's were the biggest you could go. they look really good on the car. i traded a carbon fiber oem hood for them so idk what to do now

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thebleek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a 00 d16y8 motor swapped in with a stage 1 gude cam.

so its not just a stock non vtec motor.

so how the [freak] do i get rid of these? should i sell em on craigslist?

i thought 17's were the biggest you could go. they look really good on the car. i traded a carbon fiber oem hood for them so idk what to do now</TD></TR></TABLE>

sell the rims and pick up a set of oem/aftermarket 15inch rims. Trust me, there will be a dramatic change in acceleration, handling, and mpg.

 

i dont care really about mpg or acceleration. The really only problem i have is when i encouter a big dip and i have a passenger in the rear seat.

 

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If you don't like the advice, then don't ask for help.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thebleek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought 17's were the biggest you could go.</TD></TR></TABLE>
17x7s can be used on a Civic, but you need the correct offset, tire size, and suspension setup for it to work out.

 

****, im down for advice...

but what that person was giving...wasnt.

 

sell them rims for some si's!

 

good advice.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont try to use wheels that dont fit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

There is no other tire you can run on a 17" wheel that will reduce the sidewall height and eliminate rubbing.

One option is raising your car up a bit.

Another option is buying a wheel with the correct fitment for your car.

You might think 1" is nothing.... but imagine your wheel was pushed in 1" further into your wheelwell. Or better yet, look at the area you're rubbing onto and see what's 1 inch deeper....maybe no rubbing?

 

Any pics of your car in its current setup? I'm interested to see how it looks with these 1" spacers.

I suppose the Accord wheels could be a pretty high offset, but still, with that 25mm reduction it's probably a much lower offset than it should be. You should be running somewhere around a 38-42mm offset with a 7" wide wheel.

 

You need to find out what the stock offset is, and what the new offset is. Maybe it is a number that is printed somewhere on the rim. For example, something in the range of 30-50? Maybe you can get your rotors machined down or something? Or buy another set of rotors with a different offset?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beanbag &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You need to find out what the stock offset is, and what the new offset is. Maybe it is a number that is printed somewhere on the rim. For example, something in the range of 30-50? Maybe you can get your rotors machined down or something? Or buy another set of rotors with a different offset?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Shaving metal off a rotor will reduce the structural integrity of the part and could endanger someone's life. IMO, to resort to something like that just to rock a specific wheel on a car is flat out ignorant.

Regarding rotors and having different hub sizes....I dont think any company manufacturing rotors have them available in optional hub offsets

What i'm now wondering is if there is another company that makes a spacer thats not as thick and will allow him to run his wheels..

 

all about the offset. most lowered cars cant even run a +10 offset. also to consider the width of the tire. and the fact that its a 17x7 wheel is somthing to think about too. larger the diameter of the wheel, the closer it will come to the fender, especially turning. thats why oem is 6" wide.

 

OK, i just saw that the back side of the wheel mounting surface on honda rotors is hollowed out, so machining down this surface would be a bad idea. Never mind, then

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EnjoyTheRideDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What i'm now wondering is if there is another company that makes a spacer thats not as thick and will allow him to run his wheels.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
He's not using a spacer; he's using a hub adapter to convert the bolt pattern from 4x100mm to 4x114.3mm. There really is no way to make a hub adapter that uses up less space. His only option other than using different wheels would be to install a '96-97 JDM ITR brake/hub conversion, which has many downsides (including expense and parts availability) and is rather silly to do just to run a specific set of wheels.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
He's not using a spacer; he's using a hub adapter to convert the bolt pattern from 4x100mm to 4x114.3mm. There really is no way to make a hub adapter that uses up less space. His only option other than using different wheels would be to install a '96-97 JDM ITR brake/hub conversion, which has many downsides (including expense and parts availability) and is rather silly to do just to run a specific set of wheels. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, no doubt a heavy@$$ set of wheels at that. 17x7 stock Honda wheels probably weigh 22-25 lbs. Euro Accord 17x7 wheels were 21.8 lbs according to wheelweights.net, so most likely those USDM Accord wheels are even heavier.

 

yeah its an adapter, because why the hell would i want a spacer lol.

what about some tighter springs? i only scrape in the rear every once and a while on dips.