Camber kit
I went with the skunk2 pro series front and rear and am happy with them. They do say however that the ball joint boot is known to go bad faster than OEM. I have replaced one so far but it was about a year after I put it on the car.
i have a skunk2 camber kit on my dc with no complaints. i regret buying it though because they are a waste of money imo unless you really need the adjustment for racing etc...
Only true if you haven't lowered your car. If you lower your car enough the factory steup can't hold the camber you need to have even wear on your tires. When I bought my car the previous owner had lowered it with some cheap coil overs on stock shocks and stock camber. When I replaced the suspensions and bought new tires, I had seen how uneven the wear was on the tires.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AcuraLsSE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Only true if you haven't lowered your car. If you lower your car enough the factory steup can't hold the camber you need to have even wear on your tires. When I bought my car the previous owner had lowered it with some cheap coil overs on stock shocks and stock camber. When I replaced the suspensions and bought new tires, I had seen how uneven the wear was on the tires.</TD></TR></TABLE>
camber does not wear tires unevenly. toe is the killer of tires, not negative camber.
whenever you lower your car, you should always get an alignment(toe set to zero)
camber does not wear tires unevenly. toe is the killer of tires, not negative camber.
whenever you lower your car, you should always get an alignment(toe set to zero)
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AcuraLsSE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Only true if you haven't lowered your car. If you lower your car enough the factory steup can't hold the camber you need to have even wear on your tires. When I bought my car the previous owner had lowered it with some cheap coil overs on stock shocks and stock camber. When I replaced the suspensions and bought new tires, I had seen how uneven the wear was on the tires.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sorry man, but a camber kit is NOT necessary with proper alignments.
My car has been lowered for over 6 years with no camber kit, and my tires wear pretty evenly. I get about 30K miles per set. I also rotate tires every 5K miles and get an alignment at least once, sometimes twice per year.
Sorry man, but a camber kit is NOT necessary with proper alignments.
My car has been lowered for over 6 years with no camber kit, and my tires wear pretty evenly. I get about 30K miles per set. I also rotate tires every 5K miles and get an alignment at least once, sometimes twice per year.
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I have to agree with skynyrd and Patrick on this one. I've had several lowered cars and have never had uneven tire wear when the toe was set correctly.
Something I have been thinking about lately is the affect of negative camber on rolling resistance. If anyone has any insights I'd love to hear them.
Something I have been thinking about lately is the affect of negative camber on rolling resistance. If anyone has any insights I'd love to hear them.
Ok, well it sounds like I'm wrong. Sorry for the bad info. I understood that toe was the main wear problem. Was told that a camber kit was needed when lowering your car to keep even wear. Since I have gotten them I haven't had any problems
I think that somewhere along the way, some guy at a shop was trying to make a few extra bucks and started recommending camber kits to everyone with a lowered car while spreading misinformation about "camber wear". Unfortunately it's now quite a widespread belief.
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The problem is that people lower their cars, but then forgo alignment when the car seems to still drive straight. The tires are worn to shreds pretty quick, and because there is noticeable negative camber, that is immediately blamed as the cause for eating the tires.
So then said person gets a camber kit, installs it, and gets it dialed in during an alignment. Voila! The tire wear disappears, but that was because the toe was corrected during the alignment, not just because negative camber was reduced. Negative camber is much more visible to the eye than toe-out, and so it is easily blamed for the previous tire wear that was happening.
So then said person gets a camber kit, installs it, and gets it dialed in during an alignment. Voila! The tire wear disappears, but that was because the toe was corrected during the alignment, not just because negative camber was reduced. Negative camber is much more visible to the eye than toe-out, and so it is easily blamed for the previous tire wear that was happening.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TweakIntheCO »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for all the input guys.
The car is lowered and has some pretty bad negative camber going on.
So I just need to adjust the toe to zero from what I have gathered? </TD></TR></TABLE>
What makes you believe it's "bad" negative camber? How much is it lowered? I was lowered over 3" when I had GC's with -2.8 camber up front, and my tire wear was fine.
The car is lowered and has some pretty bad negative camber going on.
So I just need to adjust the toe to zero from what I have gathered? </TD></TR></TABLE>
What makes you believe it's "bad" negative camber? How much is it lowered? I was lowered over 3" when I had GC's with -2.8 camber up front, and my tire wear was fine.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TweakIntheCO »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hrm. It's lowered 3". The way the tires tilt in just annoys the crap out of me :/</TD></TR></TABLE>
well if it bugs you that much then go ahead and get one for your cosmetic reason.
well if it bugs you that much then go ahead and get one for your cosmetic reason.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TweakIntheCO »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hrm. It's lowered 3". The way the tires tilt in just annoys the crap out of me :/</TD></TR></TABLE>
Cosmetic or practical decision time then.
The problem is that Integras are lacking in front suspension travel to begin with.
Then we go and lower the car, reducing this further.
The last thing we should do (but many people do anyway) is then fit a front camber kit in place, which is taller than stock (all sliding or offset balljoint kits) and even further reducing what little travel is left.
So, do you really want to spend money while further reducing your available suspension travel (and probably having more expensive alignments due to more things being adjustable now) for the cosmetic angle of your front tires? Its your car, and your money and decision. Just be aware of what you're choosing to do and don't be upset when you find dents in your shock towers from your camber adjusting UCAs hitting.
Cosmetic or practical decision time then.
The problem is that Integras are lacking in front suspension travel to begin with.
Then we go and lower the car, reducing this further.
The last thing we should do (but many people do anyway) is then fit a front camber kit in place, which is taller than stock (all sliding or offset balljoint kits) and even further reducing what little travel is left.
So, do you really want to spend money while further reducing your available suspension travel (and probably having more expensive alignments due to more things being adjustable now) for the cosmetic angle of your front tires? Its your car, and your money and decision. Just be aware of what you're choosing to do and don't be upset when you find dents in your shock towers from your camber adjusting UCAs hitting.
Lol, If you did drop it 3 inches then I could see that being a possibility. When you lower your car most people will get stiffer suspension, which travels less. With my camber kits (front) I added maybe half an inch. Don't slam your ride and your fine.
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