car died at idle, doesn't restart, honda dealership cannot figure it out
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these are 4 different posts from another forum basically. I put it in the wrong place on this forum by mistake and didn't get many responses. Here it goes:
Its a 2000 base Prelude. Sitting at a turn light a couple days ago, and the car just died on me. It would turn over like it wanted to start, but it wouldn't start. Tried jumping it and got nothing (knew it wasn't the battery). Then I played with priming the fuel pump by turning the ignition to the on position, then off, then tried to start it and it cranked. I got in and started driving and it was hesitating big time when I would hit the gas, and then it just died again about a mile down the road. Had it toed to a honda dealership whom spent 2 hours on it already, and they are asking for 2 more hours because they still don't know what the problem is. They were able to start it when they first tried and then it died on them. I went to the dealership to test some other things and it would not restart. All I know is that they check the fuel pump (as per my request), and its functioning properly. What could it be. I figured it was a clogged fuel filter that eventually burnt out the fuel pump.
More info after speaking with dealership
Okay, so I spoke with the rep, and this is what they found. The fuel pump operates properly, this is an electrical issue. There is no spark at the coil (which is an aftermarket blaster 2 coil from msd). He swapped the ignitor with a known good one. They want more time to chase basically all the wiring believing there is a short somewhere in the ignition system wiring. I mentioned my viper alarm has been acting up lately, and that my friend installed it years ago and did a hack job. I asked if they would disconnect the alarm brain and see if it started okay then. He also asked me for the genuine honda key (this one is a copy with the code put in it by honda), so they are picking the original car key from me right now to eliminate that possibility. Not sure if anyone has any insight to why I wouldn't be getting spark at the coil. I have a lot of hack wiring done in there with my vafc, msd sci igntion w/ blaster 2 coil, and most importantly the alarm which is really a hack job, I'm surprised its worked for this long. Not to mention the car was broken into a month ago and the stereo was ripped out. A bunch of bare wires, including something tapped into the ignition for my nitrous system or my radio that had arched while I was driving and blown the ignition fuze (which I replaced and the car has run fine since. I had everything repaired at a trusted local shop, and a new stereo reinstalled working just fine for a month now. I'm thinking it may be either something they rewired last month. They rewired my nitrous arming switch, my bottle heater, and my radio, so I know they must have tapped into the ignition power at some point. A lot of people have mentioned they had the same problem and it was the ignition switch, and a bunch said the distributer. If the ICM is working inside the distributer, could it still be the distributer? Since there is no spark at the coil, what sends spark to the coil? Not sure how great the techs at the honda dealership were, I told them to stop everything when they basically told me to take it to a performance shop and they had no idea what was wrong.
Its a 2000 base Prelude. Sitting at a turn light a couple days ago, and the car just died on me. It would turn over like it wanted to start, but it wouldn't start. Tried jumping it and got nothing (knew it wasn't the battery). Then I played with priming the fuel pump by turning the ignition to the on position, then off, then tried to start it and it cranked. I got in and started driving and it was hesitating big time when I would hit the gas, and then it just died again about a mile down the road. Had it toed to a honda dealership whom spent 2 hours on it already, and they are asking for 2 more hours because they still don't know what the problem is. They were able to start it when they first tried and then it died on them. I went to the dealership to test some other things and it would not restart. All I know is that they check the fuel pump (as per my request), and its functioning properly. What could it be. I figured it was a clogged fuel filter that eventually burnt out the fuel pump.
More info after speaking with dealership
Okay, so I spoke with the rep, and this is what they found. The fuel pump operates properly, this is an electrical issue. There is no spark at the coil (which is an aftermarket blaster 2 coil from msd). He swapped the ignitor with a known good one. They want more time to chase basically all the wiring believing there is a short somewhere in the ignition system wiring. I mentioned my viper alarm has been acting up lately, and that my friend installed it years ago and did a hack job. I asked if they would disconnect the alarm brain and see if it started okay then. He also asked me for the genuine honda key (this one is a copy with the code put in it by honda), so they are picking the original car key from me right now to eliminate that possibility. Not sure if anyone has any insight to why I wouldn't be getting spark at the coil. I have a lot of hack wiring done in there with my vafc, msd sci igntion w/ blaster 2 coil, and most importantly the alarm which is really a hack job, I'm surprised its worked for this long. Not to mention the car was broken into a month ago and the stereo was ripped out. A bunch of bare wires, including something tapped into the ignition for my nitrous system or my radio that had arched while I was driving and blown the ignition fuze (which I replaced and the car has run fine since. I had everything repaired at a trusted local shop, and a new stereo reinstalled working just fine for a month now. I'm thinking it may be either something they rewired last month. They rewired my nitrous arming switch, my bottle heater, and my radio, so I know they must have tapped into the ignition power at some point. A lot of people have mentioned they had the same problem and it was the ignition switch, and a bunch said the distributer. If the ICM is working inside the distributer, could it still be the distributer? Since there is no spark at the coil, what sends spark to the coil? Not sure how great the techs at the honda dealership were, I told them to stop everything when they basically told me to take it to a performance shop and they had no idea what was wrong.
Who knows whats wrong with it....look at all those wiring issues man. Just leave it with them and let them diagnose it and pay up when they are done.
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