I have no idea what I'm doing right now... I thought I be able to atleast plug it in to try and mess around with it.. but nooooo.

I just picked up this used welder because I want to try and practice. I have a lame fluxcore from autozone and I figure it's time to upgrade. It's a used 175 tig.



Now the hard part.

I've got the cord that I wanted to stick into our garage outlet, but then I noticed that the outlet has 4 prongs and the cord off the welder has 3. I went to ACE hardware and they only sold 30amp dryer cable that looked like it would fit the outlet, but I didn't think 30 amps would be ok or even if I'd be able to rewire the welder.



How the hell do I rewire something to let me start welding?? I was so happy to get it home.. now I can't do anything . PLEASE use simple English if you try to explain how to do something.. I know NOTHING about electronics, but I think I can figure it out if someone wants to tell me what I gotta do. thanks!

 

ok the bottom pic is wired for 220V with a neutral and no ground the plug in your wall is wired for 220 with a neutral and a ground.

 

i found my socket at home depot

 

I am not a welder but looks like the welding machine uses regular 110v, not the four prone receptacle you have there.

 

See.. I have no idea what I'm supposed to do then... . i guess i'll check home depot for a new receptical tomorrow.

 

its 220, you can notice that one prong is slighty larger than the other

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lenthrax &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its 220, you can notice that one prong is slightly larger than the other</TD></TR></TABLE>

WRONG.

I'm at work and can't see the picture, but that sounds like a POLARIZED plug, not 220v.

220v will have 4 prongs. 2 "hot", a neutral and a ground.

15 amp plugs will typically look like this:
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o

20 amp plugs will typically look like this:
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o

220v outlets typically look like this:
/ \
\ / or something similar, look at your dryer.


From the sound of it, you need to identify what kind of welder you have and go from specs, not what kind of plug it has.

 

Older 220 recepticals had 3 pins...2 hot and a ground.

The newer 220's have a neutral also-

just had to install a new one in my house for our new dryer(original one was 3 prong, but the dryer is 4 prong)

 

That kinda looks like a NEMA 6-50 plug. Same thing I use on my machines, just 'cause they're easy to get locally.

Not sure if it's the same vintage, but a quick search for your machine specs turned up this: http://content.lincolnelectric...5.pdf

Looking at that, the spec says it wants 60a @ 230v and they want you to run a 125a breaker.

My advice is to find a friend who's electrical-savvy and get them to help you figure out what you need before calling an electrician - get an idea of what you need, then call a professional to give you a quote.

 

I have no idea what ^^^ means... I suck at electronics...Does this mean that I can't plug this welder into the garage even if I'm able to make it fit?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evs-One &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Older 220 recepticals had 3 pins...2 hot and a ground.

The newer 220's have a neutral also-

just had to install a new one in my house for our new dryer(original one was 3 prong, but the dryer is 4 prong)</TD></TR></TABLE>

So if this is right... can I just change the cord to a 4 prong? The ones at ace hardware are only rated at 30amps and is for dryers. Can I use them?

 

pretty much all the info int this thread is incorrect except for anyone who agrees with this:

its 220. you need to goto lowe's/hd get a 4-prong 50A or 4-pring dryer 30A plug (theyre both the same except for the bottom pin on the dryer is "L" shaped. note: your socket is a 30A dryer socket)
you wont be using the bottom pin anyways, leave it out of the plug.

open your socket, should be green on top (possibly copper) then black on right and white on left. match stuff up and youre good. sometimes youll have red in the wall which counts for white in this case.

i just made an adapter for my dynasty 200 to work with 110 and 220, and also rewired my plasma from 110 to 220 (can also reconvert back using adapter previously mentioned) so this I know works, but nobody can seem to explain it correctly or quickly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dfoxengr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pretty much all the info int this thread is incorrect except for anyone who agrees with this:

its 220. you need to goto lowe's/hd get a 4-prong 50A or 4-pring dryer 30A plug (theyre both the same except for the bottom pin on the dryer is "L" shaped. note: your socket is a 30A dryer socket)
you wont be using the bottom pin anyways, leave it out of the plug.

open your socket, should be green on top (possibly copper) then black on right and white on left. match stuff up and youre good. sometimes youll have red in the wall which counts for white in this case.

i just made an adapter for my dynasty 200 to work with 110 and 220, and also rewired my plasma from 110 to 220 (can also reconvert back using adapter previously mentioned) so this I know works, but nobody can seem to explain it correctly or quickly.

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THANK YOU!

 

Yes and no. My point was just because they CAN get a dryer plug to put on the machine it doesn't mean they SHOULD.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by snootworks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes and no. My point was just because they CAN get a dryer plug to put on the machine it doesn't mean they SHOULD.

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Why shouldn't I do this? Please explain. I don't want to burn my house down . I was following dfoxengr's comment, and I only got so far. This is where I'm at. If I'm doing anything wrong or if you think I should do it this way, PLEASE let me know!
I took the old power cord out and here it is next to the new 50amp range 4 prong plug that I just picked up.

You say I should LEAVE the bottom prong out? It was already in there when I bought it? How do I take it out? And which color wire is it? I'm such a noob...
old one that was on the welder:


new one that I just picked up from lowes:

[b] Do I just get a pair of plyers and pull out/break that bottom prong so it will fit into the outlet?


thanks... everyone has been alot of help so far, just still don't know quite what to do.

 

bump

 

I hate to say it, but the new cord still isn't the right cord....

 

you should not have bought an entire cable setup. you dont need the one that has wires on it.
go back and return it and get just the male receptacle.

then cut off your 3-prong without cutting too much wiring off. then strip the ends and insert into the new receptacle.

http://www.discount-rv-marine....d.jpg
you bought the wired one, whereas you should have bought the other one without wires (but in male form)

 

look for one of these
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2336993

 

yes thats exactly what you need, but remember the white from your machine is the red in the wall.

 

I'll check back at lowes and hd for a male receptical. ok.. now... THANK YOU haha. honestly. thanks.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 89civicdx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">look for one of these
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2336993
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How is that any different than what he's already got on the machine? So he buys one that fits the receptacle and removes the 4th pin, that leave him with what he has, right?

Can't he just plug in the 3 prong plug into the receptacle as is since he's not going to use the ground anyway?

 

^ that's a good question

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonsense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

How is that any different than what he's already got on the machine? So he buys one that fits the receptacle and removes the 4th pin, that leave him with what he has, right?

Can't he just plug in the 3 prong plug into the receptacle as is since he's not going to use the ground anyway?</TD></TR></TABLE>

no, look at the pictures closer. The prongs that I DID have were not the same.