Hey guys,

Well I'm in business for a new clutch and flywheel. I'm set on a Competition Clutch Stage 5, a few people suggested it to me due to it being relatively similar in clutch feel to OEM with being a bit stiffer and engagement points being different obviously.

However, a majority of the people I've been talking to have suggested an 8lbs. flywheel and I think that's too light for the power I'm putting down and most importantly, the weight of the car.

As of right now, I think I may be getting a 13lbs. CC flywheel but I'd like some more feedback until I go and purchase it.

Thanks.

 

why a stage 5? how much power is your car making? If you are running anything less then 4-500HP I wouldent even consider getting one. As for the flywheel, it doesnt matter how heavy the car is, or what clutch set up you are running, its all a matter of driveability.

8lb flywheel is a pain in the *** to drive on the street. I had one on my stock B16 civic and it was killer in traffic since you need to rev the car higher then normal to get it moving. I also had a stage 1 ACT street disc and a HD pressure plate and the pedal was pretty stiff.

Another thing to keep in mind when purchasing a clutch, its not the clutch disc that makes the pedal stiff, its the pressure plate, so if the company offers different strength pressure plates, consider which one is best for your application.

 

Who told you that a stage 5 was similar to an OEM?

How much power are you putting down to the ground with this N/A F23 build? What type of driving are you going to be doing? Answer these questions and someone might be able to give you some suggestions.

With the very limited information you have given maybe I would go with a stage 2 clutch kit and just resurface & balance your stock Flywheel.

 

Haha why go stage 5 ?

Stage 2 at MOST is what you should go for. That + 11-13lb flywheel would be fine

 

I have an 11 pound flywheel and 6 puck clutch and that is more than enough. I dont suggest going with a stage 5 unless you're grossly mistaken on what stage 5 stands for.

 

Just get your flywheel resurfaced and buy a stage 1 clutch!
That is closer to OEM only more stiff........it has the grip and clamp you want man!
Changing the flywheel to lighter one has it goods and bads!

I really think this is the one you want! Go for a stage 1!!

 

I know a buddy of mine, with a 6th gen accord, who drove a car with the Competition Clutch stage 5 kit. Refer to what was said above, there's several other people who have said made similiar claims about the kit, AFAccord being the only one you guys would be familiar with.

I originally was going to go with an Exedy Stage 2 clutch and fidanza flywheel, it didn't impress me.

Then ACT HD pressure plate with a street disc and streetlite flywheel, still didn't have a good feeling about it.

I was talking with AFAccord about drivetrains and what not, and he shared his experience with the CC stage 5 and told me he was completely impressed with it(He is putting down some impressive WHP in his N/A F23, 6th gen) Ironically, after contacting a shop about installation for my clutch/flywheel, specifically about the ACT combo, the shop also recommended the same clutch as AFAccord did without me saying anything about it in the beginning of the conversation. The individual from the shop I talked to used this same clutch on a 600WHP, K20 hatch and he said his only complaint is that it would slip every once in a while.

I would go with a stage 2 or a stage 3 versus a stage 5, however; a lot of people who drag race and DD their cars have said that the stage 5 lasts considerably longer and does not sacrifice drivibility in comparison to the stage 2 and 3.

This will primarily be a DD, I'm not going to be communting as much because I'm going to be dorming this semester. However, I think the reason why I'm leaning more towards a stage 5 vs. a stage 2 or 3 is the claims on durability and the impression people gave me on the clutch.

I don't value hearsay much or third party information on car products, especially drivetrain. The people who have convinced me towards this kit have driven a car with it. But the only people who have suggested things that they have driven or used are mainly individuals who run with a Exedy Stage 1 and fidanza flywheel. And the fidanza is too light, IMO, for a daily driver.


Modified by Corruption at 5:04 PM 8/4/2008

 

From reading the very few specs that I was actually able to find on the Competition web site. I figure that their 4 puck stage 5 it's equal to most other companies 4 puck stage 3 kits. This is probably why it is good on the streets. Now I'm just going by the specs given by the manufacturer, not personal experience. Most of the stage 5 clutch kits that I ran across out there are race only. They are usually multiple plate or unsprung and definitely not for daily driving.


Modified by GhostAccord at 10:59 PM 8/4/2008

 

Ok Ghost, are you going to state anything that will be useful to me or are you going to continue to subtly make useless remarks? This thread isn't about the clutch, it's about my prospective purchase of a flywheel.

And from the looks of it you don't have any direct experience with after market clutches. So you can tell me what you think all night and day, I could careless.

 

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And from the looks of it you don't have any direct experience with after market clutches. So you can tell me what you think all night and day, I could careless.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well, your an idoit. Thats not an opnion, its fact. Why do you think an 8lb flywheel is too light for alot of power? As far as performance goes, the lighter the better. You will lose less power, rev quicker and accelerate much quicker. The only driveability you lose is initial take off, and you may want to install a short shifter if you dont already have one. I recommend a short shifter because I noticed with my civic when I had my stock shifter and 8lb flywheel I had to shift faster to catch the next gear before the rpm droped too much.

For future refrence, dont post something on a public forum, asking people what they think you should run on your car. If you are set on a competition clutch stage 5, and want to run their flywheel, then contact competition clutch and ask them if its right for your set up. If you dont want other peoples input that you have asked for, then [freak] off

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Corruption &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok Ghost, are you going to state anything that will be useful to me</TD></TR></TABLE>
I guess not!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Corruption &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or are you going to continue to subtly make useless remarks?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup!

I have no useful information other than to clarify that your stage 5 is not a true stage 5. Just so you don't look like an idiot going around saying you have a stage 5 clutch in your extreme hp DD F23 Accord.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Corruption &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> And from the looks of it you don't have any direct experience with after market clutches. So you can tell me what you think all night and day, I could careless.</TD></TR></TABLE>

As for me having any real experience how the F'k would you know what experience I have? Where have you looked? I worked in a shop for 5 years boss. I think I know a thing or two about clutches, and what crappy aftermarket clutches only last a year or two. How long have your testimonial buddies had their clutches for?

And No I don't work in a shop anymore because I got tired of fixing other peoples mistakes.

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As for your flywheel Who TF cares? You seemed to have made up your mind well before you even started this thread. If your looking for affirmation go waste someone else's time.

 

I think you guys have an issue with the ability to read. That's where my frustration lies. I never asked a single opinion on the clutch I'm getting, but the first thing you guys mentioned was your unnecessary opinion on that.

It's funny GhostAccord, it says that you're 33 in your profile. You surely act like it too.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Corruption &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think you guys have an issue with the ability to read. That's where my frustration lies. I never asked a single opinion on the clutch I'm getting, but the first thing you guys mentioned was your unnecessary opinion on that.

It's funny GhostAccord, it says that you're 33 in your profile. You surely act like it too. </TD></TR></TABLE>

wow r u guys serious!!?

Ghost Accord is the [freak]ing man when it comes to this ****, u guys are ignorant if your not gonna listen to the information he's giving u

 

I don't see anything impressive about Ghost, he's had an attitude through out this thread as if he's all knowing. I don't know if I can take someone with gsxr 1000 itbs on their f22 block seriously.

 

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Lets see, a stock F23 accord, VS a custom ITB set up.. . . I think that stands for itself right there.

 

whatever you say accord expert. im done with this thread.

 

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You ask a stupid question, and you didnt even wanna hear what other people have to say, so why even make a post about it?

 

dude dont get mad!you gave him an answer!
let him learn the hard way!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Corruption &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't see anything impressive about Ghost, he's had an attitude through out this thread as if he's all knowing. I don't know if I can take someone with gsxr 1000 itbs on their f22 block seriously.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Haha, anyone reading this thread can see that you are the idiot here. Try LISTENING to what people are telling you instead of getting butthurt about it.

IMO do not get a stage 5, that is ridiculous for anything other than a race car. Stage 2 Exedy with an 8lb wheel has been great for me over the last 3-4 years.

 

what do you guys think about XTR stage 3 clutch 6 puck with gripforce f1 racing flywheel idk what weight but it says 15 by the teeth

my clutch is going and it came with the car so its what im going to put in because im broke, i bought the car off a guy going to school to be honda tech i was just curious as to what everyone thought

'00 accord coupe i4 intake and exhaust

 

i run comp clutch stage 5 with bisimoto 8.9 flywheel and love it!