Is this good aligment?
lowered on h&r racing with kyb
99 Civic Si MR

Left front , right front
camber -1.2 , -0.7
caster 1.2 , 1.3
toe 0.07 , 0.05

left rear , right rear
camber -2.4 , -2.5
toe .11 , 0.07

are these numbers good? I don't know what they mean.



Modified by inthad at 6:51 PM 7/31/2008

 

what car? what are the factory specs on the printout?

 

99 Civic Si MR

 

anyone? help?

 

looks like front and rear camber numbers are mixed up lol

semms like the front would have more negative camber angle. also some toe out (more than the rear)

the rear camber should be failry small and very small amount of toe in - or zero.

in my opinion

 

toe looks way off to me. Are those the AFTER readings? They look more like before readings lol

 

yea, this is the reading after the aligment. Firestone lifetime aligment and its the only one that can do the car. B/c it has a drive in and not a ramp. Its low. I have ingall rear and skunk2 camber it.
Should they be able to do it.

 

Needs more negative front camber, less negative rear camber, and less toe-in at all four corners.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTECIntegra9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looks like front and rear camber numbers are mixed up lol

semms like the front would have more negative camber angle. also some toe out (more than the rear)</TD></TR></TABLE>
No. '96-00 Civics have a revised rear camber curve that is much more aggressive than earlier Civics and Integras. The rear gains negative camber much faster than the front, as seen in many new generation Hondas.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what are the factory specs on the printout?</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

why isnt your toe set to 0 are close as possible?

firestone

 

I dont know the stock spec

I also don't know why the guy at firestone did that? I mean, maybe he doesnt know how to do a lowered car alignment.

So what do I go? go to another shop? or go in again to request the spec I want?

Please let me know, i don't want to ride in this condition long.

 

if its firestone lifetime alignment, g oback and tell them to check it again.

and the stock ranges are posted in the alignment sheet. why arent you just comparing it from that?

 

I only have the before and after alignment reading. Thats it, and I asked for a copy of that.
All I get is a damn receipt with prices.

 

go to another firestone. theres 6 in your area.

 

In Matthews, NC is the only one that is a straight drive in.
the rest are ramps, i can't get up the ramp, its low.
Otherwise i would

 

eh thats not very good. Id take it somewhere else. who cares about lifetime. if a good shop does it right once and you dont make any changes youre good for awhile. especially on lowered car you want your toe setting close to 0 to avoid tire wear. typically a performance alignment has more neg camber in front, maybe -2 degrees. and -1 degree rear. the money you spend on tires wearing out from a crappy alignment is way more then a good 4 wheel alignment will cost.

 

its not the camber that should be the big issue.


its just the toe.

the rear being cambered is because its an EK. no surprise. no harm.

just get the toe straight.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No. '96-00 Civics have a revised rear camber curve that is much more aggressive than earlier Civics and Integras. The rear gains negative camber much faster than the front, as seen in many new generation Hondas.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

I learn something new every day. Ty.

Yes take it to a quality shop to align it right this time. Avoid the headache.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alphalanos &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">eh thats not very good. Id take it somewhere else. who cares about lifetime. if a good shop does it right once and you dont make any changes youre good for awhile. especially on lowered car you want your toe setting close to 0 to avoid tire wear. typically a performance alignment has more neg camber in front, maybe -2 degrees. and -1 degree rear. the money you spend on tires wearing out from a crappy alignment is way more then a good 4 wheel alignment will cost.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lots of things happen during daily driving that can throw off alignment. Hitting bumps, potholes, rough railroad crossings, those kinds of things. Especially if you're car is older with worn bushings, it's even easier for alignment to get out of whack.

I like to get an alignment at least once a year, sometimes twice a year, to help keep tire wear to a minimum.

 

I found a place with the right people. I just have to take off the front bumper and get up the ramp. I hope it works out. Thanks for the help guys

 

no need to take off the bumper... just go back to firestone and put some wood before the ramp to extend it so that you can get more clearance...

 

Alignment is good now. Thank guy for the help.