KELVIIV (TOMMY TRAN)IS A BAD SELLER AND A LIAR, BUYERS BEWARE!!!
I purchased his so called "brand new, never used" koni's. They were supposed to be brand new never used and 100% complete. Well they arrived today and this is what I receive. He told me today that ONE was installed. I have reported him to paypal, as these were obviously used, damaged, and not 100% complete. All the hardware is missing. Although they were a good price, I dont know the true story behind these and he is a liar and a bad seller.


bent ring



bent ring

well, though i understand why you're pissed i dont think those were actually used.
Maybe he mounted them and just never actually "used" them. They just look too clean to be used to me.
Maybe he mounted them and just never actually "used" them. They just look too clean to be used to me.
No that is what you told me TODAY after I asked you wtf was wrong with it. You never said in the original pm that they were mounted. Here let me show you what YOU said.
(6:10 PM 7/19/2008) mikeycivic: and these are 100% brand new and complete?
(6:11 PM 7/19/2008) kelviiv: yes they are brand new and complete
They are not brand new and definitely are not complete. I would like a refund and I will return these to you.
Oh wait theres more. This is from him today.
(2:26 PM 7/30/2008) mikeycivic: dude shocks are not brand new. The bottoms are all scratched up, the pirch ring is bent, and its missing all the hardware
(7:19 PM 7/30/2008) kelviiv: they are brand new, i never used them, one of them were instaleld, WTF??????????????
Anyone else see something wrong with that statement?
(6:10 PM 7/19/2008) mikeycivic: and these are 100% brand new and complete?
(6:11 PM 7/19/2008) kelviiv: yes they are brand new and complete
They are not brand new and definitely are not complete. I would like a refund and I will return these to you.
Oh wait theres more. This is from him today.
(2:26 PM 7/30/2008) mikeycivic: dude shocks are not brand new. The bottoms are all scratched up, the pirch ring is bent, and its missing all the hardware
(7:19 PM 7/30/2008) kelviiv: they are brand new, i never used them, one of them were instaleld, WTF??????????????
Anyone else see something wrong with that statement?
so im thinking, the one with the bent ring was mounted, and they were both just handled improperly. You say you got a good deal on them, and im just saying, you probably still got a good deal...they will for sure still work the same.
But, i understand that you dont like to be lied to.
But, i understand that you dont like to be lied to.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JdelMsolG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they will for sure still work the same.
But, i understand that you dont like to be lied to.</TD></TR></TABLE>
They may, they may not. I dont know if it was ever driven on, how many miles (if any) are on it. Now I guess I need to call Koni and order the perch ring, and all the hardware that was supposed to come with this. Deal or no deal, the point is that what I got was not what was portrayed, PERIOD. The fact that he is being uncooperative makes the situation even shadier and more of a pain in the ***. The seller even went as far as telling me, I did the damage. Thats pretty impressive of me if I can get shocks in the mail at 2:10 (delivered to my door) TODAY. I put them on, beat em all up, took them back off, took pics of the damage and pmd him at 2:26 asking him wtf happened to the so called "brand new never used" shocks.
Modified by mikeycivic at 11:36 PM 7/30/2008
But, i understand that you dont like to be lied to.</TD></TR></TABLE>
They may, they may not. I dont know if it was ever driven on, how many miles (if any) are on it. Now I guess I need to call Koni and order the perch ring, and all the hardware that was supposed to come with this. Deal or no deal, the point is that what I got was not what was portrayed, PERIOD. The fact that he is being uncooperative makes the situation even shadier and more of a pain in the ***. The seller even went as far as telling me, I did the damage. Thats pretty impressive of me if I can get shocks in the mail at 2:10 (delivered to my door) TODAY. I put them on, beat em all up, took them back off, took pics of the damage and pmd him at 2:26 asking him wtf happened to the so called "brand new never used" shocks.
Modified by mikeycivic at 11:36 PM 7/30/2008
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikeycivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would like a refund and I will return these to you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
easy solution
and if they will still work the same as jdmsol states then kelviiv will not have a problem reselling them
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easy solution
and if they will still work the same as jdmsol states then kelviiv will not have a problem reselling them
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kelviiv »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL that bent perch ring was never bent when shipped, I'm assuming YOU bent it </TD></TR></TABLE>
How and why would I bend a perch ring? Are you kidding. YOU SAID IT WAS INSTALLED. Therefore YOU BENT IT NOT ME.
How and why would I bend a perch ring? Are you kidding. YOU SAID IT WAS INSTALLED. Therefore YOU BENT IT NOT ME.
so you keep cussing at me through pm's
and i'm not going to go away from honda-tech, if you want to buy things from me in the future then do, if you don't then i won't mind
i didn't do anything wrong nor did i send him a bad pair of shocks.
one quick question, i sell things online, ebay/amazon/craigslist, just wondering when you disputed me on paypal by opening a claim, why did you escalate it to a claim so quick without letting me tell my side or anything?
doesn't make sense, seems like you are a pro at this or something
and i'm not going to go away from honda-tech, if you want to buy things from me in the future then do, if you don't then i won't mind
i didn't do anything wrong nor did i send him a bad pair of shocks.
one quick question, i sell things online, ebay/amazon/craigslist, just wondering when you disputed me on paypal by opening a claim, why did you escalate it to a claim so quick without letting me tell my side or anything?
doesn't make sense, seems like you are a pro at this or something
it makes perfect sense this was the response I got form you BEFORE I escalated it.
(2:26 PM 7/30/2008) mikeycivic: dude shocks are not brand new. The bottoms are all scratched up, the pirch ring is bent, and its missing all the hardware
(7:19 PM 7/30/2008) kelviiv: they are brand new, i never used them, one of them were instaleld, i didnt asy they would come with hardware, and nothing was bent for sure, i dont take responsibilties if you install anything wrong, sorry sold as is
(7:38 PM 7/30/2008) mikeycivic: um these have not been installed and the perch ring is bent, if you sell something brand new never used it should include EVERYTHING
(7:45 PM 7/30/2008) mikeycivic: and let me refresh your memory:
mikeycivic: and these are 100% brand new and complete?
(6:11 PM 7/19/2008) kelviiv: yes they are brand new and complete
seems like you your stories are conflicting
(9:01 PM 7/30/2008) kelviiv: don't know what you're complaining about at that price, honestly they are brand new and nothing was bent, i'm not taking any responsibilities gl
Would you like me to show you a picture of the green sticker on the box from the post office that states
RECEIVED UNSEALED and RECEIVED DAMAGED LOL dude you dont have a leg to stand on right now and Im contacting my credit card company that I used to pay you.
(2:26 PM 7/30/2008) mikeycivic: dude shocks are not brand new. The bottoms are all scratched up, the pirch ring is bent, and its missing all the hardware
(7:19 PM 7/30/2008) kelviiv: they are brand new, i never used them, one of them were instaleld, i didnt asy they would come with hardware, and nothing was bent for sure, i dont take responsibilties if you install anything wrong, sorry sold as is
(7:38 PM 7/30/2008) mikeycivic: um these have not been installed and the perch ring is bent, if you sell something brand new never used it should include EVERYTHING
(7:45 PM 7/30/2008) mikeycivic: and let me refresh your memory:
mikeycivic: and these are 100% brand new and complete?
(6:11 PM 7/19/2008) kelviiv: yes they are brand new and complete
seems like you your stories are conflicting
(9:01 PM 7/30/2008) kelviiv: don't know what you're complaining about at that price, honestly they are brand new and nothing was bent, i'm not taking any responsibilities gl
Would you like me to show you a picture of the green sticker on the box from the post office that states
RECEIVED UNSEALED and RECEIVED DAMAGED LOL dude you dont have a leg to stand on right now and Im contacting my credit card company that I used to pay you.
like i said,
you could've done many things with them, just telling me you received it today wouldn't help, i can switch out struts/shocks in an hour/two.
before/after whatever man i dont know when you did, i just got home and checked, do what you want , and flame/cuss/complain to me
you could've done many things with them, just telling me you received it today wouldn't help, i can switch out struts/shocks in an hour/two.
before/after whatever man i dont know when you did, i just got home and checked, do what you want , and flame/cuss/complain to me
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikeycivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
(9:01 PM 7/30/2008) kelviiv: don't know what you're complaining about at that price</TD></TR></TABLE>
so just b/c he got a good deal it is ok to sell a defective product?
(9:01 PM 7/30/2008) kelviiv: don't know what you're complaining about at that price</TD></TR></TABLE>
so just b/c he got a good deal it is ok to sell a defective product?
um shocks were delivered TODAY at 2:10, I PMD YOU AT 2:26
Label/Receipt Number: (tracking number deleted by Dogginator)
Status: Delivered
Your item was delivered at 2:10 PM on July 30, 2008 in (address deleted by Dogginator).
Modified by Dogginator at 1:39 PM 7/31/2008
Label/Receipt Number: (tracking number deleted by Dogginator)
Status: Delivered
Your item was delivered at 2:10 PM on July 30, 2008 in (address deleted by Dogginator).
Modified by Dogginator at 1:39 PM 7/31/2008
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikeycivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">um shocks were delivered TODAY at 2:10, I PMD YOU AT 2:26
Label/Receipt Number:
Status: Delivered
Your item was delivered at 2:10 PM on July 30, 2008 in .
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(2:26 PM 7/30/2008) mikeycivic: dude shocks are not brand new. The bottoms are all scratched up, the pirch ring is bent, and its missing all the hardware
I DONT THINK ITS POSSIBLE TO INSTALL SHOCKS IN 16 MINUTES
Modified by Dogginator at 1:40 PM 7/31/2008
Label/Receipt Number:
Status: Delivered
Your item was delivered at 2:10 PM on July 30, 2008 in .
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(2:26 PM 7/30/2008) mikeycivic: dude shocks are not brand new. The bottoms are all scratched up, the pirch ring is bent, and its missing all the hardware
I DONT THINK ITS POSSIBLE TO INSTALL SHOCKS IN 16 MINUTES
Modified by Dogginator at 1:40 PM 7/31/2008
Looks like they were installed to see if they fit but never driven on.
BTW: How can you complain? You got them for $160. That's one hell of a deal to me.
BTW: How can you complain? You got them for $160. That's one hell of a deal to me.
Just cuz somethings were unclear between the both of you it doesn't mean he's a bad seller. You should have asked for up to date pics of the stuff you were buying and approved before you agreed to buy them. Don't get me wrong, there is a code of honesty that not everyone on here follows(I've been screwed over myself), but there's also some sense of responsibility on your behalf for not being more thorough, it goes both ways. We need to see some before shipping pics....
whats wrong kelviiv, cat got your tongue????? Its this simple. Login to your paypal account, go to where you see a payment from me. Press the button that says REFUND, and then your shocks come back and all this goes away.



