i have a 95 accord lx with the drums in the rear and wanted to put the ex rear discs on.......can someone give me the parts list of what i need or give me a link to something that gives me the info.......

 

Rear EXR trailing arms.
disc brake e-brake cables
pads
rotors
caliper flex lines
caliper WITH flex line bolt
caliper bracket with bolts


Installation is a straight swap, plus bleeding the brakes. I did a conversion on my friends 4th gen(same thing) and the most overlooked thing is hardware. When you buy calipers, they usuially dont come with the flex line bolt, and if you get a caliper with a bracket, they usuially dont come with the bracket bolt. So, its a good idea to go to honda to pick up the hardware to make sure you can do everything in one shot

 

thanks a lot dawg,........hopefully will be done and ready this weekend

 

whats exr?

 

Is there any particular reason why you feel the need to switch to discs? Personally you're a lot better off just saving the money and keeping the stock drums in the back as you'll only notice a marginal difference between the two unless the car's going to see a lot of trackdays or serious racing.

 

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I actually did the swap for rear discs on my lx coupe and there was a considerable difference, starting with brake pedal resistance and not having to push it so far for the brakes to bite down. The distance it was taking to stop was less and it also helped in not locking up being that my 94 didnt have ABS. Its worth doing but can get costly. Your best bet is to find the entire rear setup from either an Accord or an Acura CL.

I bought my entire setup online for 179.99 along with about 8 other parts (Acura CL interior parts), paid about 90 bucks to ship them all to me and voila...


Try this link, I think it still works, its a similar setup to what I bought.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1

The link provided is to give you an idea of what you'd need being that it comes with everything you'd need to make the switch. The only other things you'd need to do is add some stainless steel brake lines for better pressure in the brake lines but that's totally optional.

 

top model accord. I keep forgetting that most of the people on H-T are american, so it would be your EX model. Here in canada, we have1 more model, so our EXR is an american EX, and our EX is like an SE down there, my bad.

 

ur pedal being stiffer was most likely due to bleeding the brakes, not the conversion.......

 

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I actually did the swap for rear discs on my lx coupe and there was a considerable difference, starting with brake pedal resistance and not having to push it so far for the brakes to bite down. The distance it was taking to stop was less and it also helped in not locking up being that my 94 didnt have ABS. Its worth doing but can get costly. Your best bet is to find the entire rear setup from either an Accord or an Acura CL.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well new brake fluid and lines probably resulted in all of that difference. I've driven both rear drum and disc Accords a lot, and there's almost no difference in the stopping distance. Yes the brake feel is marginally improved but as upgrades go the money is better spent elsewhere.

 

so i would also need the spindle and calipers off the same ex right

 

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Well new brake fluid and lines probably resulted in all of that difference. I've driven both rear drum and disc Accords a lot, and there's almost no difference in the stopping distance. Yes the brake feel is marginally improved but as upgrades go the money is better spent elsewhere.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I do agree with the money potentially being spent elsewhere, however my motor is completely done, so I dont even touch that, the only thing for it is to get the stage 3 cams in there, but that'll come once i'm done with a few other aesthetic things. Maybe its me mentally not wanting to accept that there was no difference but I do feel a difference, it just brakes better. Its hard to explain it better than I did.

 

Speaking of better brake pedal sensitivity, out of the accord/CL/prelude camp which chassis and/or model has the biggest master cylinder/booster?

Personlly, I have a 96 LX and I noticed the braking bias is all front based. It feels so uneven under medium to hard braking (compared to my civic heh). Planning to do a rear disc upgrade soon.

Did any of you who performed the rear disc conversion swap out the prop valve as well?





Modified by Katman at 12:20 PM 7/31/2008

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Katman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Speaking of better brake pedal sensitivity, out of the accord/CL/prelude camp which chassis and/or model has the biggest master cylinder/booster?

Personlly, I have a 96 LX and I noticed the braking bias is all front based. It feels so uneven under medium to hard braking (compared to my civic heh). Planning to do a rear disc upgrade soon.

Did any of you who performed the rear disc conversion swap out the prop valve as well?

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Does a car not equipped with ABS make a difference with the brake force distribution compared to a car that does have ABS?

 

Man if you are looking for rear disc just for the hell of it........ go ahead if you have about 300 - 500$ depends on how you go about getting the parts.
If you are doing if for track-days........ DO IT, you will deffinitly feel the difference on the track and/or some spirited driving.
If you want better pedal feel......... Just do the stainless steel braided brake lines and you will notice the pedal feel.
Rear disc look a hell of alot better to.

 

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Does a car not equipped with ABS make a difference with the brake force distribution compared to a car that does have ABS?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, being that an ABS Honda - which are all disc brake based - have a better (bigger sized) master cylinder & booster and correct set prop valve, I would say YES an ABS Honda does have signifigantly better braking power/pedal sensitivity over a non-ABS Honda vehicle.

 

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Well, being that an ABS Honda - which are all disc brake based - have a better (bigger sized) master cylinder & booster and correct set prop valve, I would say YES an ABS Honda does have signifigantly better braking power/pedal sensitivity over a non-ABS Honda vehicle.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My point in asking was that because I dont have ABS, changing from rear drums to rear discs, do you feel that helps in braking power, shorter braking distances and a lesser chance of the brakes locking up?

 

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My point in asking was that because I dont have ABS, changing from rear drums to rear discs, do you feel that helps in braking power, shorter braking distances and a lesser chance of the brakes locking up? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll let you know soon because my CD5 LX doesn't have ABS either and I'm about to throw on some rear discs

I know converting to rear discs will help and gain better braking power. It did with my EG civic, don't see why it wouldn't be any different with an Accord! Thing is you need a prop valve from a CD Accord that has 4 wheel disc brakes so the brake biasing is correct; also upgrading the MC/booster helps as well, because the MC/booster is usually better on ABS model Honda's.

Locking up the brakes varies and depends how your braking habits/style is. Also pedal sensitivity can play a role in locking up the brakes. When upgrading the MC/booster to an ABS unit for instance, would increase braking pedal sensitivity making it easier to lock up the brakes, but then again, your braking style also plays a role as well.

 

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I'll let you know soon because my CD5 LX doesn't have ABS either and I'm about to throw on some rear discs

I know converting to rear discs will help and gain better braking power. It did with my EG civic, don't see why it wouldn't be any different with an Accord! Thing is you need a prop valve from a CD Accord that has 4 wheel disc brakes so the brake biasing is correct; also upgrading the MC/booster helps as well, because the MC/booster is usually better on ABS model Honda's.

Locking up the brakes varies and depends how your braking habits/style is. Also pedal sensitivity can play a role in locking up the brakes. When upgrading the MC/booster to an ABS unit for instance, would increase braking pedal sensitivity making it easier to lock up the brakes, but then again, your braking style also plays a role as well.

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I have rear discs already, I just put them in about a month ago and I feel the difference, my point was more subjective for those people who feel it makes no difference. Please do let me know what you feel the difference is or if there isnt one at all.

 

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I have rear discs already, I just put them in about a month ago and I feel the difference, my point was more subjective for those people who feel it makes no difference. Please do let me know what you feel the difference is or if there isnt one at all. </TD></TR></TABLE>

oh word

 

what proportioning valve did you use with swap because i was told that i need a 40/40 for 90-93 teg with rear disk non abs