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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 02:42 PM
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Default Solid rear end and fuel cell pics. CRX Update 9/22

I have been working on this car for the last 6 months or so and I am getting close to completing it so I though I would post a few teaser pics.
I will start another thread when everything is completed with dyno results.
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This is the third cell I have made like this and it seems to be working pretty well.









Here are the pics of the rear end. Iam not really finished with it yet but you get the idea.









And an engine bay shot.






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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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how much weight did that rear end save you?
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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Not as much as most people would lead you to think. I didnt really weigh before and after so I cant say exactly how much but I would say about 10-15 lbs. I made the rear end so the wheels would be able to tuck under the fender not really for the weight savings.
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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The cell is ****.
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 07:56 PM
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Looks great! What diameter is the fuel cell?

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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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The cell is 6" diameter.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 12:52 AM
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Here's another one of Aka's fuel cells. This is on my car, works great, not one issue with it.

Before the filler neck








Filler neck





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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 05:40 AM
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Very interesting. It the cell baffled?
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -RedneckDave- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Very interesting. It the cell baffled?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Based on the fact that you don't see any welds or discoloration on the outside, I would say no. But with a sump that low, you don't really need one.

The only thing that worries me is only have one sheer point for the trailing arms. I would add a second tab. Also, maybe box or reinforce that plate so it doesn't twist over time. Other than that,
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PPLH8R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not as much as most people would lead you to think. I didnt really weigh before and after so I cant say exactly how much but I would say about 10-15 lbs. I made the rear end so the wheels would be able to tuck under the fender not really for the weight savings.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do you plan to pull out the original subframe?
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bakeoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Based on the fact that you don't see any welds or discoloration on the outside, I would say no. But with a sump that low, you don't really need one.

The only thing that worries me is only have one sheer point for the trailing arms. I would add a second tab. Also, maybe box or reinforce that plate so it doesn't twist over time. Other than that, </TD></TR></TABLE>

There is no baffle on the inside of the tank. I figured that the sump was large enough to not need any. As long as the tank is near full it shouldnt be a problem.

The trailing arm is only mounted single shear because I ran out of tabs. I plan on welding another tab so the heim will have 2 tabs. I also plan on making a large gusset where the trailing arm tube meets the "axle".
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maskednegator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Do you plan to pull out the original subframe?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I guess I could . I designed it this way so that the subframe could be left intact. This way if the customer wants to switch back to the factory stuff it will make his life much easier.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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how do you know how much you have ??? i dont see any sender or electronics on it.

but hey it looks bitchin you make any to sale ? im interested PM me
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 02:42 PM
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just wondering if you think those band clamps that hold the cell are gonna be safe enough. seems that if one would let go things could get ugly.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rickoner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just wondering if you think those band clamps that hold the cell are gonna be safe enough. seems that if one would let go things could get ugly. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The worm clamps in the picture are just temporary. I ordered a set of T-Bolt clamps which should be more than strong enough.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony413 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how do you know how much you have ??? i dont see any sender or electronics on it.

but hey it looks bitchin you make any to sale ? im interested PM me </TD></TR></TABLE>
The filler neck is inside the car. You can easily open it and look inside to see how much fuel you have. This tank is really intended for track use but I guess you could try using it on the street.

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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 01:04 AM
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The original plan for my car was for Aka to fab a filler neck using the stock filler piping. I was going to use some sort of fuel level sending unit with a gauge, but I got pressed for time and ended up cutting a hole in the floor and just filling gas through it. Works fine, did a quick fab to make a sheet metal cover for the filler neck.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 04:34 AM
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is that cap vented ?
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:24 AM
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When you build a cell like that do you have to add a breather line inside like a stock tank?
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:55 AM
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Would you mind sharing where you are sourcing the end caps for the tank?

Thanks
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 08:26 AM
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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Thanks Brent
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that cap vented ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

No, the cap is not vented. He welded a bung on the side of the cell, similar to the pics in the above CRX, but mine are placed a bit higher up. I just put a 120deg hose end fitting on it for now. I'll be putting a roll-over valve soon for safety purposes.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tepid1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Would you mind sharing where you are sourcing the end caps for the tank?

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I get the end caps from this place http://www.rbwagner.com/pages/Rbwagner.html but I know they are available from sharpe also.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 89civicdx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When you build a cell like that do you have to add a breather line inside like a stock tank?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The cap is not vented but as Redline stated above the tank gets several bungs welded on which allow you to run a vent , return and feed line.
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 05:49 AM
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amazing

love the tank!
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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So I finally got the rear end finished and thought I would post pics of the final product. I think it came out pretty nice for the first one I made.
I will post more pics when I get closer to finishing. Enjoy

Here is what it looks like before installation with no hardware mounted to it.




and installed






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