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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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i'm so proud i can learn to do this...whoo-hoo! only problem is i don't know what the problem is. i did the old method way-- paper clip stick in the plug. i've counted 5 slow flashes, and 3 fast flashes.

now you wizards tell me what that is??...
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Code 53, which is a generic code,

53 PCM failure
53 Internal controller failure

Replace the PCM

Do I know what a PCM is, no. But google does.
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OMGWTFBBQ! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Code 53, which is a generic code,

53 PCM failure
53 Internal controller failure

Replace the PCM

Do I know what a PCM is, no. But google does.
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how did you come up with that? i have no idea what PCM or IC is...but i will try my best to figure it out.

thanks!
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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I just googled CEL code 53, and got a list of errors.

I googled PCM, but no one actually said what it was, just used the acronym. I also only searched one page of results. I would imagine CM stood for control Module, so whatever P is will give you your answer.
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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oh yea, and the engine light only comes on once. why is that? car bogs and chokes even before the CEL come on.
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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It should only come on once. If you have misfires, then it will blink 4 times when it detects a misfire, and youll have individual cylinder misfires codes, along with a random misfire code if more than one cylinder is misfiring.
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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You should redo the jumper wire method. I couldn't find CEL code 53 on the list:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1901557

Maybe the code actually was 54 or 63?
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RonJ@HT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You should redo the jumper wire method. I couldn't find CEL code 53 on the list:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1901557

Maybe the code actually was 54 or 63?</TD></TR></TABLE>

maybe i should go redo it again?
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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you know what...it could be 4-3 after all. and that must be-"fuel supply system." can anyone explain to me what that is?
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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53 is a generic code not listed on the Honda CEL list because its present on all ECUs for all vehicles.

Check to see if it actually is 53 or 43, two very different problems.
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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PCM = Powertrain Control Module. As far as I can tell, this refers to the ECU.

http://www.aa1car.com/library/pcm.htm
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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Thats pretty much what I figured, sounds like if thats the code, then you need a new ECU.

What engine/transmission do you have?
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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i'm positive that it's 43. it's best to redo it a second time.
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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If the code is indeed 43, then it would indicate a problem with the primary O2 sensor/circuit or with the fuel system.
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 11:18 PM
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is code 43 the reason why my car bogs and chokes? and cel only came on once and so far it hasn't been showing again. could it be popping back up again?

i will try and change the fuel filter first, and then 02.
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 06:29 AM
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You want to be absolutely sure that the code was 43 before you begin replacing parts. Clear the ECU by removing the 7.5A BACKUP fuse for 30 seconds and then reinsert it. Drive the car and, if you again notice the CEL ON, then retrieve the code(s) and go from there.
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 07:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RonJ@HT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You want to be absolutely sure that the code was 43 before you begin replacing parts. Clear the ECU by removing the 7.5A BACKUP fuse for 30 seconds and then reinsert it. Drive the car and, if you again notice the CEL ON, then retrieve the code(s) and go from there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hey good morning, Ron. i tried to IM u, but you blocked it.

ECU is the black box under the hood? remove how many 7.5? lets get it started this morning.
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 07:46 AM
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i will have to replace the fuel filter anyways. its been over 30k miles since i last replaced it.
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 07:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by G2_Fella &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ECU is the black box under the hood?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, that would be the underhood fuse panel, your running a '92 - '95 civic right? ECU is behind the passengers side kick panel, its held in with 3 bolts and one nut

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by G2_Fella &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">remove how many 7.5? lets get it started this morning.</TD></TR></TABLE>

remove the 7.5 amp fuse labled backup, leave it out for 30 seconds and then put it back in, you will loose your radio presets as well.
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94EG8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No, that would be the underhood fuse panel, your running a '92 - '95 civic right? ECU is behind the passengers side kick panel, its held in with 3 bolts and one nut



remove the 7.5 amp fuse labled backup, leave it out for 30 seconds and then put it back in, you will loose your radio presets as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hey what sup, 94! i remember you, you're a big helper!

damn, i should've known...been driving honda's for over 10 years and i feel so stupid not knowing where the ECU is. so it's that gold metal box? right under the grey plug?
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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can't wait to go and try and open it. i need to disect my car a little more. i'm just so scared i might break things.

so if i remove the fuse, do i drive it around for a little bit? after that, do i come back and do the clip on the socket again and recount it?
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 08:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by G2_Fella &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so it's that gold metal box? right under the grey plug?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep, thats the ECU

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by G2_Fella &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so if i remove the fuse, do i drive it around for a little bit? after that, do i come back and do the clip on the socket again and recount it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You just need to pop the fuse out for 30 seconds or so to clear any codes, put fuse back in and drive around till the light comes on, then check your codes again. I was hoping you were having better luck with your car. Has it ever gotten any better since the headgasket fiasco? Anyway good luck
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 08:21 AM
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Just drive the car normally and, if the CEL goes ON, then pull the code.
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 08:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94EG8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yep, thats the ECU

You just need to pop the fuse out for 30 seconds or so to clear any codes, put fuse back in and drive around till the light comes on, then check your codes again. I was hoping you were having better luck with your car. Has it ever gotten any better since the headgasket fiasco? Anyway good luck </TD></TR></TABLE>

i ended up spending more than what i should have. "you get what you pay for." i hired a mickey mouse mechanic.

i paid to have someone adjust my valves. by-pass hose went bad after the headgasket when it should've went bad while getting the head done. car shakes at idle. car bogs and chokes even more.

*CEL* light hasn't been lighting up since saturday night. why's that?
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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Possible intermittent problem. If the CEL turns ON for a couple of seconds and then turns OFF when you turn the key to ON, then focus on other issues until the CEL stays ON.
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