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PLEASE HELP!! I THINK I NEED A NEW MOTOR :(

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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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so i have a cold air intake thats pretty low to the ground. im driving home with my fiance and i ran through puddle. as soon as we were halfway through the car died and i slowly rolled my car to the breakdown lane. i tried to start it but it wouldnt turn over unless i pumped the gas repeadetly and as soon my foot came off the gas it died.

<U>my check engine light isnt on so</U> that makes me feel a little better. <U>but my battery and oil light is on</U> i dont understand? i just changed my oil not even 4 days ago and i just put a new battery in like 2 days ago.

well as i was trying to start it back up a cop came up behind me with his lights on and everything and was trying to help me out. when i try to start it up now it makes loud clunking and thumping and scraping noises and the cop had the hood open and said its <U>coming from inside my motor</U>.

it was raining hard and i did run through that large puddle (on the side where my cold air is sticking out) but my engine bay is BONE DRY not even one drop of water in the bay. the cop was like "uh oh...my jeep made this same exact noise...i think your valves pistons and rods are f*cked"

whats going on please i need insight im tearing my hair out

my F23A1 has 247,000 miles on it and i dont know when the last time the TB was changed out. BUT WOULD THE CAR TURN OVER IF THE TB HAS SNAPPED?


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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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Default Re: PLEASE HELP!! I THINK I NEED A NEW MOTOR :( (peeweezy)

what could of happened is that the puddle you went throuu the water could of went up your CAI. if you didnt have the little cover on it.
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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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what kind of damage you think my engine has got if water gets in there
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 02:32 AM
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I don't see why everyone continues to try to start the car after it's obvious what happened.

You've [freak]ed the motor.

Since you don't know what you're doing take it to a shop and have them assess the damage.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 07:12 AM
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Hey peeweezy.....may be the cop mistook the sound comming out of your cai for blown pistons......you can try by letting the motor rest for some time and again crank it......if it does not, then remove the spark plugs, use compressed air to remove any water left in the cylinders and also wipe the spark plugs dry with a cloth.now try to start it again and all the best.
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 11:09 AM
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What happens when we try to compress water...
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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SIGH!!! well had it towed to a show i trust and they found immediately that the block was cracked i was like NO WAY and they showed me. IT WAS HORRIBLE

Ill never install a CAI without a shield around it from now on

I didnt wanna deal with engine swap so i just decided to leave it in the backyard and i bought a 1997 civic ex
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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Default Re: PLEASE HELP!! I THINK I NEED A NEW MOTOR :( (peeweezy)

The money you spent on the civic could have went to the accord. Sucks dude.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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It is not only a shield you need. You need a Air Bypass valve. I do not understand why people install CIA without air bypass valve. I guess if you have another car to drive when it rains, or if it never rains much where you live, then you will be fine, but if you are driving in rain, it will hydro lock when you go in deep enough water.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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too bad you dont reside in CA ... i have a spare f23a1 and auto trans sitting in my wrecked 99 accord
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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i think it is for a h22 swap!!!! but ya man sucks to hear, my friend did same thing too... he was a dumb *** tho, he saw the water and i told him shut off ur engine and neutral over it.... he saids its ok! i was like w/e so he ran over it and BOOM sucked up like 5 gallon of water and head was f' ed

but ya swap in another motor and it should be good to go on ur free time if u have any
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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Ok this is what you do its worth a shot. pull out spark plug wires and plugs disconnect dizzy connector. then get inside car and crank for total of 5 seconds observe from inside car all the water and small amount of fuel that shoots out. do this 2 times and you will be ok. but in ur case since you tried again and again to start you may have already caused damage. this method has been used many times when i was hard headed and didnt want to buy a damn bypass valve. To this day i stop and help other hondas when it rains and they encounter water sucked up by the CAI. Gets the job done
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 02:49 AM
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Guess you didn't read there was a hole in his block? It's not really worth a shot when there's a hole

For future reference it could help - it's also not only Hondas that have the dilemma
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 04:51 AM
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hehehe lol i was at work and dozzin off (graveyard) Muffin if its a ford stuck so be it. Plus most hondas have a CAI here in El Paso
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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Yea dude go to junkyard and see if you can buy the motor and just swap the same one in. This may be a sign. Maybe God is telling you it's time to swap to an H22 motor.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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you cant compress water. engine is done. knocking and scraping=really bad.
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gqstatus05 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea dude go to junkyard and see if you can buy the motor and just swap the same one in. This may be a sign. Maybe God is telling you it's time to swap to an H22 motor. </TD></TR></TABLE>

There is no sign if you see a bus coming down the road and run in front of it and get hit. People who have CIA just need to install a dang Air Bypass Valve on it, or know the risk they are in for if they walk into a ***** house.


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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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hey next time you install a cai get one that comes with a dry sock. it's prevent the incident with the paddle
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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sorry for my spelling errors
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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I cry whenever i see people doing things like this and just dont stop doing it until the ship is sunk.
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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Please just stop posting in the thread.

His motor is broken, he soaked up water, he had a CAI.

Bypass valve (filter coupler) is the fix.

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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 11:48 AM
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thanks for all the replies guys but shes gone...i miss her too a lot of time and money spent.

i just called the salvage yard and told them to junk her i got some money and stripped my car before they got to her

i walked away with a bunch of accord parts and $450 SIGH

im NOT going to install a CAI again unless i surround that filter will so many shields haha
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