better all motor platform h22 or f20?
whats up i am going to order my motor this weekend and came to a dead stop. this is the problem with one should i get i am looking to run all motor and want to hit low 11s. I have alot of indecision on which motor to run the f20b or the h22a both are in the same area for power and price just dont know which is going to be better in the long run.
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seeing as how you're new here, I'd advise looking into the issues that H22A and the dual cam f20s have with exk. rocker pad wear w/ aftermarket cams.
it seems to become a big issue as soon as you go with an aftermarket bumpstick ( which you most certainly will need to get to the 11s ). Not advising you against the swap... just want you to be well informed before making a purchase.
it seems to become a big issue as soon as you go with an aftermarket bumpstick ( which you most certainly will need to get to the 11s ). Not advising you against the swap... just want you to be well informed before making a purchase.
ok cool i will check into that wear issue. and i dont have any limitations with the build really. just want the better platform to build off of. i am already to far into parts for a h/f to turn back now.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kyle1jzsupra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go h22a </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for providing that useful and in-depth input to the thread. Care to tell us why?
Thanks for providing that useful and in-depth input to the thread. Care to tell us why?
i cant find much on the wear nor can i find an aftermarket solution. i know now that they do wear quick with new cams but that could be from just not setting the lashcorrectly right? because i also found instances of b and d series wearing in the same way.
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Thanks for providing that useful and in-depth input to the thread. Care to tell us why?</TD></TR></TABLE> LOL well said.
Thanks for providing that useful and in-depth input to the thread. Care to tell us why?</TD></TR></TABLE> LOL well said.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KB91Hatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i cant find much on the wear nor can i find an aftermarket solution. i know now that they do wear quick with new cams but that could be from just not setting the lashcorrectly right? because i also found instances of b and d series wearing in the same way.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Trust me, BlackTraxGirl, 98vtec and all the h-worshippers in the prelude forum definitely know how to set their valve lash so its not that. The common thought on it now is just an inferior piece originally put on the motor, endyn has been saying they are coming out with replacements that are made of a less malleable material, but I have yet to see a release date with it.
Its a hard choice... I've thoguht about an H a billion times, but the main issue that keeps me away from it is the trans issue. The H-trans is dogshit for the most part, some companies make final drives, but they are still far from one of the better gearboxes honda has made.
As far as the H2b route goes.... its an awesome set up but look at gibsanez's thread and see how long its taken him to get the thing to fit asthetically (i.e. no hole-in-hood-for-vc-clearance). I give him a ridiculous amount of credit for the paintstaking amount of time he's put into his swap, but FWIW, i'd be pulling my hair out at the stage he's at for not doing a K.
thats just my $0.02 though
Trust me, BlackTraxGirl, 98vtec and all the h-worshippers in the prelude forum definitely know how to set their valve lash so its not that. The common thought on it now is just an inferior piece originally put on the motor, endyn has been saying they are coming out with replacements that are made of a less malleable material, but I have yet to see a release date with it.
Its a hard choice... I've thoguht about an H a billion times, but the main issue that keeps me away from it is the trans issue. The H-trans is dogshit for the most part, some companies make final drives, but they are still far from one of the better gearboxes honda has made.
As far as the H2b route goes.... its an awesome set up but look at gibsanez's thread and see how long its taken him to get the thing to fit asthetically (i.e. no hole-in-hood-for-vc-clearance). I give him a ridiculous amount of credit for the paintstaking amount of time he's put into his swap, but FWIW, i'd be pulling my hair out at the stage he's at for not doing a K.
thats just my $0.02 though
yea i was looking into the h2b but that was the exact reason i did not do it. Bisi moto has replacement rockers just pricey at 1700. well if its not lash then yea the stock rockers just suck ***! i guess i am going to just have to suck it up and pay to play ya know.....does not seem like there is an easy way around this problem. as for the trans i knew about that, already bought the 4.83 final drive from kingmotorsports. hopefully that will help a little bit! but seriously thank you for your input it is a help on letting me be more preped on what to expect.
she is getting there right now we are sitting with a rear disk concersion d2 coilovers function 7 lcas em racing full tri bar in the rear esplicit speed traction bars and his h22a motor mounts a 195 lph walbro fuel pump fully gutted interior only 2 seats waiting on the SiR front end conversion and the motor also sitting on some drag dr16 15in rims black with chrome lip the list goes on and on but thats what i am sitting on right now. soon to be alot more, but i will keep you up.
i also posted it there with no good response. there are alot of ef owners that have done the h22 or f20 swap figured i would get better input from those that have done it in the same chassie as mine
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