hondata S300 and MSD ignition box?????
Re: hondata S300 and MSD ignition box????? (locash)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by locash »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would recommend putting the MSD box next to the box marked "trash can".
Also, moving it away from the ecu would be a wise idea.
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^^^^^ The Canadian Hater is right
Also, moving it away from the ecu would be a wise idea.
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^^^^^ The Canadian Hater is right
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Re: hondata S300 and MSD ignition box????? (Clayton)
Mine is mounted about 4 inches from my ECU and everything works fine. Now i do have an issue with datalogging where it only catches 3rd and 4th gear BUT that started later on and used to datalog properly in the same position.
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Re: hondata S300 and MSD ignition box????? (gsrt)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsrt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can you put hondata s300 next to the msd ignition box? becuase i have a problem about noize. thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
Pick up a MSD noise filter, also keep on hand a spare ignitor..
Pick up a MSD noise filter, also keep on hand a spare ignitor..
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Re: hondata S300 and MSD ignition box????? (TheWickedOne)
Msd haters!
I have ran msd for 5 yrs with zero problems. I now run the Digital 7. Its mounted about ft. away from the ecu. And we ran shielded wires to the distributor and coil. If you run those wires next to the engine harness going through the fire wall, your gonna have issues. So we seperated to eliminate any missfires, and other datalog issues. Everyone has ther own opinion and i respect that, but i love my msd 7 and i know it works.
I have ran msd for 5 yrs with zero problems. I now run the Digital 7. Its mounted about ft. away from the ecu. And we ran shielded wires to the distributor and coil. If you run those wires next to the engine harness going through the fire wall, your gonna have issues. So we seperated to eliminate any missfires, and other datalog issues. Everyone has ther own opinion and i respect that, but i love my msd 7 and i know it works.
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Re: hondata S300 and MSD ignition box????? (TheWickedOne)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheWickedOne »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Pick up a MSD noise filter, also keep on hand a spare ignitor.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
everyone talks about msd's and noise. well i probably have the most possible noise generator on my car, and it runs like a champion, the ecu see's 0 noise ! (with no noise filter/capacitor)
Gary, when you shut your car off with that capacitor hooked up, does it still run on for like 2-4 seconds ? because of the charge the capacitor is holding ?
Pick up a MSD noise filter, also keep on hand a spare ignitor..
</TD></TR></TABLE>everyone talks about msd's and noise. well i probably have the most possible noise generator on my car, and it runs like a champion, the ecu see's 0 noise ! (with no noise filter/capacitor)
Gary, when you shut your car off with that capacitor hooked up, does it still run on for like 2-4 seconds ? because of the charge the capacitor is holding ?
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Re: hondata S300 and MSD ignition box????? (DaveF)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
everyone talks about msd's and noise. well i probably have the most possible noise generator on my car, and it runs like a champion, the ecu see's 0 noise ! (with no noise filter/capacitor)
Gary, when you shut your car off with that capacitor hooked up, does it still run on for like 2-4 seconds ? because of the charge the capacitor is holding ? </TD></TR></TABLE>
No i've never experienced the delay in shutdown. I'm assuming you have ? or worked on a car that did that ?
everyone talks about msd's and noise. well i probably have the most possible noise generator on my car, and it runs like a champion, the ecu see's 0 noise ! (with no noise filter/capacitor)
Gary, when you shut your car off with that capacitor hooked up, does it still run on for like 2-4 seconds ? because of the charge the capacitor is holding ? </TD></TR></TABLE>
No i've never experienced the delay in shutdown. I'm assuming you have ? or worked on a car that did that ?
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Re: hondata S300 and MSD ignition box????? (DaveF)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
everyone talks about msd's and noise. well i probably have the most possible noise generator on my car, and it runs like a champion, the ecu see's 0 noise ! (with no noise filter/capacitor)
Gary, when you shut your car off with that capacitor hooked up, does it still run on for like 2-4 seconds ? because of the charge the capacitor is holding ? </TD></TR></TABLE>
One, you have a great ecu that's very resistant to RF noise interference, the S300 is a completely different animal in that respect. You look at it wrong and i'll stop datalogging.
Two, does you car really run like a champ? Aren't you having issues with it?
everyone talks about msd's and noise. well i probably have the most possible noise generator on my car, and it runs like a champion, the ecu see's 0 noise ! (with no noise filter/capacitor)
Gary, when you shut your car off with that capacitor hooked up, does it still run on for like 2-4 seconds ? because of the charge the capacitor is holding ? </TD></TR></TABLE>
One, you have a great ecu that's very resistant to RF noise interference, the S300 is a completely different animal in that respect. You look at it wrong and i'll stop datalogging.
Two, does you car really run like a champ? Aren't you having issues with it?
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Re: hondata S300 and MSD ignition box????? (TheWickedOne)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheWickedOne »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
No i've never experienced the delay in shutdown. I'm assuming you have ? or worked on a car that did that ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Perhaps the differance lies, in your car having an electronic pump, which is killed when the key is turned off, meanwhile we use mechanical pumps, which are still spinning when the ecu is turned off, the capacitor is said to hold "4 seconds" of charge, should you have a voltage drop.
the orange hotrod coupe uses a noise filter, this is the only differance between my car and that car, my car shuts off "normal" when i shut the ecu switch off. meanwhile the other car runs on for a few seconds.(2-4)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
One, you have a great ecu that's very resistant to RF noise interference, the S300 is a completely different animal in that respect. You look at it wrong and i'll stop datalogging.
Two, does you car really run like a champ? Aren't you having issues with it? </TD></TR></TABLE>
when it ran, it ran well. id like to think of the problems with my car were with the condition of parts used in the shortblock, not neccisarily the tune up or electronics in the car. junkyard wars FTW
im not sure what you mean by the 1st part ?
Edit, you saying the M ecu sees the same noise but is more resistant to it. so i look at it wrong, when i think it see 0 noise?
Modified by DaveF at 9:47 AM 7/23/2008
No i've never experienced the delay in shutdown. I'm assuming you have ? or worked on a car that did that ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Perhaps the differance lies, in your car having an electronic pump, which is killed when the key is turned off, meanwhile we use mechanical pumps, which are still spinning when the ecu is turned off, the capacitor is said to hold "4 seconds" of charge, should you have a voltage drop.
the orange hotrod coupe uses a noise filter, this is the only differance between my car and that car, my car shuts off "normal" when i shut the ecu switch off. meanwhile the other car runs on for a few seconds.(2-4)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
One, you have a great ecu that's very resistant to RF noise interference, the S300 is a completely different animal in that respect. You look at it wrong and i'll stop datalogging.
Two, does you car really run like a champ? Aren't you having issues with it? </TD></TR></TABLE>
when it ran, it ran well. id like to think of the problems with my car were with the condition of parts used in the shortblock, not neccisarily the tune up or electronics in the car.
junkyard wars FTW im not sure what you mean by the 1st part ?
Edit, you saying the M ecu sees the same noise but is more resistant to it. so i look at it wrong, when i think it see 0 noise?
Modified by DaveF at 9:47 AM 7/23/2008
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Re: hondata S300 and MSD ignition box????? (DaveF)
The original question had to do with noise interference on the S300, which is a very common problem. It's very hard to have noise interference on a Motec ecu.
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Re: hondata S300 and MSD ignition box????? (Antilag)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Antilag »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Msd haters!
I have ran msd for 5 yrs with zero problems. I now run the Digital 7. Its mounted about ft. away from the ecu. And we ran shielded wires to the distributor and coil. If you run those wires next to the engine harness going through the fire wall, your gonna have issues. So we seperated to eliminate any missfires, and other datalog issues. Everyone has ther own opinion and i respect that, but i love my msd 7 and i know it works. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah really, i have had mine (6al) for 6 years no issues,
BUT i am about to move it, so now all hell will break loose.
as cort, said i will be using shielded wires to the coil and from the dizzy.
mounting it on the trans tunnel (he hee trans tunnel) next to the console, and the ecu has already been moved to the glove box.
I have ran msd for 5 yrs with zero problems. I now run the Digital 7. Its mounted about ft. away from the ecu. And we ran shielded wires to the distributor and coil. If you run those wires next to the engine harness going through the fire wall, your gonna have issues. So we seperated to eliminate any missfires, and other datalog issues. Everyone has ther own opinion and i respect that, but i love my msd 7 and i know it works.
</TD></TR></TABLE>yeah really, i have had mine (6al) for 6 years no issues,
BUT i am about to move it, so now all hell will break loose.
as cort, said i will be using shielded wires to the coil and from the dizzy.
mounting it on the trans tunnel (he hee trans tunnel) next to the console, and the ecu has already been moved to the glove box.
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Re: hondata S300 and MSD ignition box????? (Antilag)
I guess I should have said that the analog systems (6a, 6aL, etc) belong in the round file. 
I have not had any issues with cars that have the digital systems. Needless to say, I have also never found an advantage to using them, unless you like more wiring.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and mine is just based on my experiences with the products.
I have not had any issues with cars that have the digital systems. Needless to say, I have also never found an advantage to using them, unless you like more wiring. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and mine is just based on my experiences with the products.
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Re: hondata S300 and MSD ignition box????? (locash)
so if i get one of those noise filters, it should prevent interference with my msd and the ecu that is near it? Its only $40 but i know noise filters go a long ways.
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Re: hondata S300 and MSD ignition box????? (DaveF)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
everyone talks about msd's and noise. well i probably have the most possible noise generator on my car, and it runs like a champion, the ecu see's 0 noise ! (with no noise filter/capacitor)
Gary, when you shut your car off with that capacitor hooked up, does it still run on for like 2-4 seconds ? because of the charge the capacitor is holding ? </TD></TR></TABLE>
why do you need capacitor? any picture of your setup? thanks for all information
everyone talks about msd's and noise. well i probably have the most possible noise generator on my car, and it runs like a champion, the ecu see's 0 noise ! (with no noise filter/capacitor)
Gary, when you shut your car off with that capacitor hooked up, does it still run on for like 2-4 seconds ? because of the charge the capacitor is holding ? </TD></TR></TABLE>
why do you need capacitor? any picture of your setup? thanks for all information
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Re: hondata S300 and MSD ignition box????? (gsrt)
sorry, i dont have any pictures of the setup installed... i wish i did. 
but this is the noise filter, which inline with the main power and ground wires for the ign or ecu.
but this is the noise filter, which inline with the main power and ground wires for the ign or ecu.
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Re: hondata S300 and MSD ignition box????? (DaveF)
thanks very much!!!! for all your help
if anyone have a picture of S300 and msd setup, could you please post it? thanks again
if anyone have a picture of S300 and msd setup, could you please post it? thanks again
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Re: hondata S300 and MSD ignition box????? (gsrt)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsrt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you use S300 with digital 6? where do you mount it? thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>they are like 1' away from each other
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