is a automatic starter different than a manual starter?

 

well the whole problem is that when i went to start up my swap for the first time the starter wouldn't catch the flywheel and it does enguage. and the starter came off my automatic tranny.

 

im guessing the auto starter is differant than a manual starter. maybe the auto starter spins the torque converter instead of the flywheel for an auto making it so when you use it on a manual it doesnt line up like it should. i duno though. thats just my 2 cents of thought.

 

pretty sure they are different yea. i know the b series starters between auto and manual definately aren't interchangeable. I was hopin to use a auto starter i had on my 5spd ls trans but no go. the bolt holes didnt even line up. apparently you were able to bolt it into place.. so i'm going to assume that although its bolted in place, the throwout gear on the starter isn't making contact with the flywheel.

 

yeah its not making contact. it bolts in just fine.just dont touch the flywheel when it engauges

 

manual and automatic starters are the same - what flywheel do you have on it? how did you handle bolting the starter on since the bolt that goes thru the transmission into the block has no place to go on the A1 block?

 

going to tap the tranny and use a short bolt. i dont get how its not catching. this is really starting to **** me off. something always has to go wrong.

 

what flywheel do you have on it? - a couple of problems when trying to use the A1 flywheel - one, you already found out about - the other is that the A1 didn't have a pilot bearing to support the end of the L3 transmission input shaft - without the pilot bearing, the input shaft bearing won't last long

 

 

im using a stock si flywheel. and automatic starter. and a stage 3 clutch and preassure plate

 

anyone?

 

it just spins in the tranny.

 

did you pull the starter out and try turning the key over. see if the throwout bearing shoots out and falls back into place like it should. If the other guys right and the d-series starters are interchangeable from auto to manual, then you should not be having this issue. So either the starter is fubared somehow, or your flywheel is on wrong, and i'm pretty sure thats like impossible to do.

 

its actually hitting something, not the gear on the starter the post that stick out in front of the gear. i put a mirror by the hole in the tranny and looked inside and you can see where its hitting. can the starter be too long? ill post a pic when i take one in a little bit

 

ANYBODY>?

 

if the starter gear assembly were too long then you would be shooting past the flywheel and you would hear slight starter flywheel engaugment unless the starter gear were too small
.. you can also tell if the starter engauges enough to grab the flywheel by measuring how far it engauges with the starter outside of the car and then sticking your tape measure in the starter hole on the tranny and see if it goes far engough to grab the flywheel or too far like you said which i dont think is possible cause the flywheel is so close to the block.. and some starters in the same engine series are interchangable and some are not. it sounds like you need a diff starter though... my 2 cent


Modified by playaP at 4:31 PM 7/25/2008