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97 ek, gsr swap, having issues.

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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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Hey,

I just finished up a gsr swap on a 97 ek. I converted it from obd2a to obd1. did all the wiring, started it up, (was quite surprised it started on the first crank, honda i guess).

The problem im having is it bogs out when you step on the gas. If you put your foot into it really slowly it will rev up but if you just step on it, it will die.

Any help please.

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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Are you running the right ECU? Any check engine light codes?
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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yea im running the proper ecu, p72, I do have a check engine light. no idea what its for. Im not to up on the whole obd-1 thing and how to check codes.
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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anybody?
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 01:59 PM
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I also would like to know what this sensor is and if it should be wired up:

http://s300.photobucket.com/al...3.jpg
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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Here's how to pull OBDI codes:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1901557

Have you by chance checked the ignition timing with a timing light?
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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thanks for the link for how to check the codes, will do that today.

I have not checked the timing yet, I will try to get to that today.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davey421 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I also would like to know what this sensor is and if it should be wired up:

http://s300.photobucket.com/al...3.jpg</TD></TR></TABLE>

Believe that's Intake Air Temperature. On a Civic, it plugs into the rubber intake arm, but on a gsr it's on top of the manifold. It would probably work fine plugged into the intake arm, but I would recommend extending the wire and changing the plug so that you can plug it in where it's supposed to go.

EDIT: sorry, Intake Air Temp.


Modified by Vindicator9000 at 3:44 PM 7/21/2008
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Ok so the codes I am getting are:

9: Cylinder sensor

10: Intake Air Temp Sensor

20: Electrical Load Detector

21: VTEC Spool Solenoid
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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you air intake temp sensor is the one you posted a picture of, your harness probably has a plug that isn't pluged in and needs to be extended...
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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I assume you didn't have all those codes prior to the conversion. If so, you might have a wiring or ECU problem. Code 9 is likely causing your bogging problem.
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 12:46 AM
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i got the same problem but the diff is that i dont have any engine codes
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mugen12_35sec
i got the same problem but the diff is that i dont have any engine codes
Your problem is the iacv. my car di the same thing. ease on it was fine but no vtec floor it and it was like hitting a wall... no cel= iacv
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by davey421
Ok so the codes I am getting are:

9: Cylinder sensor

10: Intake Air Temp Sensor

20: Electrical Load Detector

21: VTEC Spool Solenoid
The cylinder position sensor is in the distributor, replace distributor (this is most likely whats causing the bogging. The IAT sensor, you'll need to pick one, there should be one in the back of the intake manifold on the OBD1 engine, and one in the intake piping on the OBD2 car, they both function in the same way, pick one of the two and leave the other disconnected. ELD is in the fuse panel IIRC, however from what i've been told civics will usually throw an ELD code along with another code showing where the wiring fault is thats causing the ELD code (such as short in IAT wiring for example would throw IAT and ELD codes.) vtec solenoid is either not connected, not wired properly or bad.
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 05:59 AM
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id be willing to bet you mixed up the idle air control valve plug and the iat plug. its the most common mistake n it causes bogging.
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BoostedGSREJ1
id be willing to bet you mixed up the idle air control valve plug and the iat plug. its the most common mistake n it causes bogging.
Usually it will give you a dead spot in the throttle between 1000 - 1500RPM, plugging the IACV connector into the IAT will kill the IAT almost instaneously btw. Don't ask me how I know that.

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