Do these manifolds boost creep?
definately not ideal...depending on the turbo you use it may creep it may not... My friend used the same manifold on his setup with a t3/ to4e and had little to no boost creep... held steady maybe has 1 psi creep which is ok.... not bad since you can pick one of those up for $100 or less .
The improper wastegate placement (closer to runners 1 and 2, than 3 and 4) does create some type of creep. Nothing crazy, but there will be creep.
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thats the revhard/drag style, yes they creep, they suck, for 7psi there OK usually if you have a TIAL 38mm on them, but anything past 7 and they will creep loads, worthless, worthless, worthless, inline pro or meutek is the only cast mani i like...
and it comes down to the size of the turbo and ur rev range to say if u will be pushing it.. but we all know its not the best placement but they been known to work!
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I have this manifold now and its boost creeping i have even made the wastegate pipe larger to 44mm and its still doing it and its a to4e turbo i have a limiter set at 6500 rpm and boosting is going to 10 psi on a 7 psi spring (real tial wastegate) i dont wanna bring it back to get tuned and they rev it to 8000 and it creeps to 14 psi again
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cslegacy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have this manifold now and its boost creeping i have even made the wastegate pipe larger to 44mm and its still doing it and its a to4e turbo i have a limiter set at 6500 rpm and boosting is going to 10 psi on a 7 psi spring (real tial wastegate) i dont wanna bring it back to get tuned and they rev it to 8000 and it creeps to 14 psi again
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anything is better than that
</TD></TR></TABLE>anything is better than that
Take the money you saved and buy a 2.5bar motorolla/freescale MAP sensor. Problem solved.
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I would doubt its ONLY the manifold creating the problem. Chinese knock-off wastegates are known for binding up towards the end of their range of movement. I've seen one that would only open halfway until the tophat/spring seat was ground away enough.
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I would doubt its ONLY the manifold creating the problem. Chinese knock-off wastegates are known for binding up towards the end of their range of movement. I've seen one that would only open halfway until the tophat/spring seat was ground away enough.
The rev hard is a very good cast manifold. It's ac/ps comparable, I used to run a sc-61 on it and it would hold 9psi. My car went 10.8 @ 130 mph with it. Most people bash these things without any first hand experience. For around 400whp, it's prefect.
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I'm using one of the cast manifolds. Holds 10-11 psi steady up to 8500. T3/T04 60 trim using a Tial 38 mm w/ Hallman MBC. Times in sig.
everyone said the drag mani was crap.
for 5 years, low and high boost with the deltagate, i never had an issue, 17 psi held rock solid.
guess i am an exception to that rule.
for 5 years, low and high boost with the deltagate, i never had an issue, 17 psi held rock solid.
guess i am an exception to that rule.
on a straight ls engine back in 2000
i had a rev hard kit with that same manifold & turbonetics delta gate, the boost would creep from about 10 up to 13 psi in 3rd/4th gear. when i swaped to a vtec head, it would creep from 10 up to 15-18.
mikey, you didnt have creep cause you have a baby engine
i had a rev hard kit with that same manifold & turbonetics delta gate, the boost would creep from about 10 up to 13 psi in 3rd/4th gear. when i swaped to a vtec head, it would creep from 10 up to 15-18. mikey, you didnt have creep cause you have a baby engine
had that manifold on a built b16, 16lbs rock solid all day every day with a t3/04e 60 trim, with that set up in a teg i was running 12.5's all day in an integra
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mikey, you didnt have creep cause you have a baby engine
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it may have been but it was an 84mm baby huey engine. he hee
mikey, you didnt have creep cause you have a baby engine
</TD></TR></TABLE>it may have been but it was an 84mm baby huey engine. he hee
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedcivicsir »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">everyone said the drag mani was crap.
for 5 years, low and high boost with the deltagate, i never had an issue, 17 psi held rock solid.
guess i am an exception to that rule.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I havent had a problem with boost creep either on mine with Tial 38mm wastegate
for 5 years, low and high boost with the deltagate, i never had an issue, 17 psi held rock solid.
guess i am an exception to that rule.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I havent had a problem with boost creep either on mine with Tial 38mm wastegate
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