so after searching even more undecided
some say go w greddy emanage
and that the neo dont work @ partial throttle?
is this true?
maybe go w hondata?
or is neo fine?

set up is
ebay cai w k&n filter
hytech 4.2.1
and custom 2.5" header back exhaust
2001 base h22 prelude

 

if you got the money go with the emanage. otherwise switch to obd1 and tune

 

why waste a quality header on a piggy back? just go obd1 and tune.

 

so i would need a p72 ecu so secondary intake runner operation not lost...
and a converter to plug one side into obd1 ecu and one to wiring harness
and a new dizzy?
and then still need to get hondata?



Modified by hondapunkrock at 10:17 PM 7/16/2008

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2266933

 

thanks missed that somehow
ecu tunning=brain powerrrrr

 

go OBD1.

contact me if you are interested in getting tuning done. My hometown is Pensacola and thats not far at all from mobile.

 

how much of a gain would i see from going obd1 chipping and tunning?

 

depends on how much the engine wants to give

when you get the car back from a FULL tune (not just dyno tuning) the difference in acceleration will be night and day.

 

I heard that AEM has something that might work. It supposedly supports ATTS but I don't know for a fact.

http://www.aempower.com/ViewCa...D=116

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CAN97SH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I heard that AEM has something that might work. It supposedly supports ATTS but I don't know for a fact.

http://www.aempower.com/ViewCa...D=116</TD></TR></TABLE>

Didn't know they released something like this. That's exactly how Emanage Ultimate controls the injector and ignition signals.

 

i wich that thing from aem would work on my 93 i need something

 

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Didn't know they released something like this. That's exactly how Emanage Ultimate controls the injector and ignition signals.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I guess it might just be another option for us ATTS users. IF it really does support it that is.

 

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Modified by oranginal at 5:52 PM 7/23/2008

 

You're already obd1. You can use a proper tuning system like hondata, crome, ectune, etc. Go to the link I posted above.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H22Honda98 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why waste a quality header on a piggy back? just go obd1 and tune.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry I am little slow . Can you explain to me why using say a .... V-AFC on a car equipped a Hytech header is a waste?

 

not that its a waste, but by the time you spend money on a vafc/installation/tuning you could be tuned on crome or eCtune and make "better" power at all load/rpm ranges.

there are better options. But a vafc is better than nothing.

 

Some people are restricted to the stock ecu for emissions and atts reasons. In those cases, a piggyback is the only option. That AEM piggyback seems pretty promising. What would be the drawback since it can control the injector and ignition signals?

 

it can only retard timing.

 

Hmm, that's a pretty huge drawback. Gawd this obd2 crap blows!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not that its a waste, but by the time you spend money on a vafc/installation/tuning you could be tuned on crome or eCtune and make "better" power at all load/rpm ranges.
there are better options. But a vafc is better than nothing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

EH. I'll disagree from my first hand knowledge. I kept thing simple on my street N20 car( I had S200 w/nitrous control sitting collecting dust at the time) But I kept my stock P72 on an V-afc on the car. Never went to the dyno. no wideband or egt's at the time. Just old school reading the plugs after 3rd gear pulls on the street. This car on stock honda parts(h23crank rods type-s pistons N20) went faster on drag's and a afc back in 2001 them alot of tuned supposed 350whp+ prelude do to this day on a full slick. The lastime I tracked the car was in 06 on a slightly more aggressive setup but still on type-s pistons just with 2stage N20 setup. It went LOW 12's the car could have gone 11.90's on 225/50/15's BFG drag's if i cared enough which i didn't. Anyways back on topic.

IMO there are so many <U>would be</U> tuners out there with way better tuning devices then an V-AFC but honestly can't truly tune. It's more then just reading AF's. If you know someone who can truly tune vs a would be tuner. Then go with what your tuner prefers.

IMO you can have a very good tuned car on a V-AFC JDMlude5 has been 13.90's a hand full of times back in 2003 on pepboy futura street tires on a V-AFC tuned car STOCK motor with bolt ons. There are built motor NA prelude that can't reach that on a full slick with way better technology.

Am I saying AFC is better then Hondata AEM blah blah blah? Hell No I would be stupid to think such a thing. My 2cent is this you CAN get the job done with an AFC sometime's less is more. If that's all your budget allows or you already have one then I say have at it. Ok end of rant

 

i refused to go with Hondata or anything else for a LONG time...shoot i still dont use the full throttle shift or a shift light....i stuck with my vafc untill i hit 13s and started adding more things that required a little more fine tuning...

for s2ks tho... the afc works great!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlacktraxGirl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i refused to go with Hondata or anything else for a LONG time...shoot i still dont use the full throttle shift or a shift light....i stuck with my vafc untill i hit 13s and started adding more things that required a little more fine tuning...

for s2ks tho... the afc works great! </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was the same way. I did end up using the S200 on the N20 car and it there was a very noticable difference. We still didn't dyno it though but my tuner's kick as . I wouldnt reccomend the full throttle shift( your trans will love you long time)

P.S. Nat don't worrie I havent used a shift light ever. We just put one in the turbo car for the last BOTI a couple of weeks ago. It just pissed me off . I am used to shifting by feel and ear

 

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P.S. Nat don't worrie I havent used a shift light ever. We just put one in the turbo car for the last BOTI a couple of weeks ago. It just pissed me off . I am used to shifting by feel and ear </TD></TR></TABLE>

^^ THANK YOU! finally someone who gets me on that! everyone bitches about me not using one. Blah blah blah consistant blah blah blah. Im used to doing it by ear. They hooked up my CEL as a shift light and i freaked out! im more consistant with less crap for me to have to deal with, and thats been proven time and again.

ill give in once the drag car comes out just to get people off my back...but im not paying for the seat time its gonna take for me to get used to all the fancy gadgets haha

 

think that aem in the link is better option that safc neo?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vinuneuro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're already obd1. You can use a proper tuning system like hondata, crome, ectune, etc. Go to the link I posted above.</TD></TR></TABLE>
How does that work out?!?!