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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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notice the spacing between the rail and the injectors. i dont have that spaceing with a stock h23 or h22 rail. i also am having problems getting the injectors to fit the rail. do b series, h series, d seies rails fit differently?

did i get ripped off by a member by being sold a different series engine fuel rail? or did golden eagle screw up? anyone tell me what motor it might fit?

i need some sort of insight soon. my car sould be on the road soon if i can get this resolved. thanks. also if you got a H series rail for a decent price let me know.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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is it torqued down? maybe a shorter spacer on the mounting stud?
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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it should just fit with out modifications. not bolted down. even if it was it still doesnt touch.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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??....looks like it would work with smaller spacers.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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try pullin those spacers out, see if the injectors seat, then measure how big of gap there is, and use a spacer slightly shorter than your measurement.. maybe 1/16" or so
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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i have but the rail is then installed lopsided. the o rings also get messed up if its like that.

i think im going to junk this damn rail. [freak]ing golden eagle.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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what do you mean by lopsided? you will still need spacers to make it fit correctly. just a different size (by what i can see in the photo)


Modified by vlang29 at 1:29 AM 7/17/2008
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 10:28 PM
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you have the wrong spacers in there for starters..... OEM spacers are brown
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 05:09 AM
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i have the brown ones. still dont fit over the rails.

lopsided as in it sits to slanted. ill get pictures of what i mean.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 07:21 AM
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My BDL rail was the same way and didnt come with any spacers, you just need shorter ones. Use a stack of washers if you have to or let me know how tall and I will make you some.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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ill have you look at it when you drop off the block off plates.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IAluder95 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ill have you look at it when you drop off the block off plates.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lucky bastard.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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how so?
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IAluder95 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how so?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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he lives 12 miles away. its a sweet deal. with him and mike at my side i learn a lot of things.

how ever this issue is bothering me so bad.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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I just mocked up my BDL rail which is the same style as the GE. The difference with these rails is that they are flat on the bottom... in other words the mounting surface of the rail is also the same surface that the injector seats up against. A stock rail has the mounting points offset from the injector bore surface, thus needing a spacer to make up for it, however the spacer is taller than the offset. Therefore in your situation when the rail is flat across the bottom its either too tall with the stock spacers or too short without them I don't understand why they design them that way and if they are going to do that then they need to provide the correct spacers to make it work, but as far as I can tell (I've owned both a GE and BDL) they don't.

As long as your injectors are the stock length you will need about a .350" spacer and it should work fine.

FWIW I always reccomend people to buy AEM rails, they make them like a stock rail so you just use your stock spacers and go.

I'll bring you some spacers, I should have those other parts by Sunday
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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STR (now BDL ) did that to me years and years ago.

Either improper spacers or maybe you forgot the brown bakelite/phenolic spacer and the rubber grommet under the injector tip in the IM?

What do you need a fuel rail of that capacity anyway? Are you running NA nitromethane or a 700 hp turbo setup?

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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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yea i got the space in the manifold. its the situation rosko discribed.

sounds good rosko. i should be there after 4 or 5.
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