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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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okay i ran into some problem after installing a integra gsr brake to the front of my eg hatch. the problem was the brake did stop will even after two bottles of bleeding its still the same. i think the civic master cylinder is probaly the problem i was going to get a gsr but i heard they dont bolt right on and what else do i need to make my brake feel like normal agian??
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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did you do the whole spindle?
is the bleeder up top or did you put the calipers on the wrong side?
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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Get the master cylinder for a '91 civic EX sedan. Its 15/16 and bolts up to your stock brake booster, the GSR master cylinder is the same size but wont bolt up to the stock brake booster. I'd also get a 4040 proportioning valve, i know everyone uses them for rear disc conversions, but civics '92 - '93 civic Si's without ABS don't have them, '94 civic Si's do, these civics also have larger front rotors, therefore it would stand to reason that the 4040 prop valve actually has more to do with larger front brakes than rear discs.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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ok im not disagreeing that there may be a problem with the master, but if the problem wasnt there before the brake swap, he needs to start there.

i have a 93 si and did a full 5 lug conversion on the stock si m/c and i have no issues stopping from 140mph. and im now gsr front 5 lug itr rear and still no issues.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:33 PM
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will okay its not a si that why i went with some gsr front its a vx. i not really sure what seems to be the problem im thinking its the master cylinder because i notice that gsr is huge and my civic is small. and also i dont think i put the brake thing wrong because i marked it as i took it from the junk
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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again, i am still stock with itr brakes.


first, did this problem exist before?
or did it start after the swap?
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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ok so you had the brakes on the spindles from the yard.

are the front brakes actually working? you said you got them from a yard. how long did they sit? are the sliders free?

you have many variables there, and if this problem didnt exist before, i dont think youll find a problem with the mc, but there is a possibility.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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will the brake i was told that it was working cause the motor was running and stuff the only reason was it the car was hit in the rear. the guy at the junk told me that the car arrived only a few day the only problem was the person who had it didnt change the pads a scurffed up the rotor so i also swap the rotor to some gsr rotor slot drill. and the problem happen after the swap it was crazy caused right after the swap i bleed the brake and it was still tirble i left it for a day and bleed and drive and it got better but now there is no air bubble in the tubeing
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:50 PM
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I think i kinda missed the obvious here, but boostedcivicsir is on the ball. how long did those brakes sit? it doesn't take any length of time before things want to rust and seize. Also when you bled the brakes did get to a point where you stopped getting bubbles and just a steady stream of brake fluid?
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xiongtoua1990 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> and the problem happen after the swap it was crazy caused right after the swap i bleed the brake and it was still tirble i left it for a day and bleed and drive and it got better but now there is no air bubble in the tubeing </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats why i asked if you had the calipers on the wrong side, because that would put the bleeders on the bottom.

if the problem didnt exist before, chances are, something you changed, is causing it.

i am not saying the master isnt the problem, there is a cnance its that.

you are saying that ever since you swapped, you have an issue, you need to start there.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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will the bleeder port is facing up ward. so that mean the cailper isnt upside down
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xiongtoua1990 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">will the bleeder port is facing up ward. so that mean the cailper isnt upside down</TD></TR></TABLE>

correct.
reason i asked that, is because i have made that mistake before.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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okay but then so does this mean i got a bad master cylinder??
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