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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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i posted this in tech/misc. but wasnt getting any hits...thought this might get a little more attention here. when i bought my em1 a few years back it came with a short shifter already installed. i am unsure of the brand. i have just had a new clutch installed along with throwout and pilot bearings(oem), bled the clutch lines, adjusted pedal, and had the tranny inspected which turned out to be in great condition (had it rebuilt 2 yrs ago and had carbon coated synchros put in). I am running honda mtf in the trany aswell. well the shifter still doesnt shift the smoothest, and when going in at an angle into 3rd...i am thinking that it could be due to the maybe "crappy" brand...? i have done some searching and found out that when some guys put in better shifters, they get a better smoother feel. i have also added ES urethane bushings. so what would be a good brand shifter to install? i dont want to go back to stock and like the shorter throw. and most importantly i want the shifting to feel butter.

i was looking at the skunk2 dual bend shifter. has anyone had experience with this short shfter? how does it perform with the skunk2 **** teamed up with it? thanx for the help.


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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 05:21 AM
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this might work a tad better in the Civic forum.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 06:38 AM
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Firstly, Honda fluid isn't bad, but there are much better alternatives out there. I use GM Syncromesh Friction Modified. It was a night and day difference to the Honda fluid. First change the fluid, then get back to us.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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i have the s2 dual bend and i love it, with the s2 ****
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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the heavy skunk2 shiftknob will make your shifts smoother, you can only understand it if you compare the stock one to it, a knockoff will work perfectly fine as well. A longer shifter will make the shifting easier on your hands as well.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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thanx for the insight guys. and sorry about putting this in the wrong section, thought i was in the civic section. can any one tell me how far back the shift **** will sit compared to stock(does it move the **** back or toowards the driver?)? the reason i am asking is because i have aftermarket seats with lrg side bolsters...thus my arm sits ahead of the arm rest in my em1. because of this, i dont want the dual bend to set the **** too far back. also is the shifter about the same height as the stock shifter?...because my short thro is quite low and prefer a higher **** position. i really want to run of the s2 with thier ****, but cant decide on either the single or dual bend. since i have a single bend already, id like to try the dual(i think it will ease up shifting)...but dont want it to sit too far back.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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well i went from a dual bend gsr in my old civic coupe, to a shitty stock single bend in my new coupe. i then went to the s2 dual bend and i love it. the single bend sits in the middle really, and sits upwards. i made a thread about this same exact question as our having, go with the s2 dual bend. you will not be dissapointed, my word on it.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:28 AM
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i have the s2 dual bend, it [freak]in sucks, my **** slopps all over the place, its only been in there 2 - 3 years. to let you know
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 06:27 AM
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thanks for the replys. im heavily leaning towards the s2 dual bend and thier shift ****.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by longshot &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have the s2 dual bend, it [freak]in sucks, my **** slopps all over the place, its only been in there 2 - 3 years. to let you know</TD></TR></TABLE>

you have it installed right? mines great as everyone else that responds saying good things about it.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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ok so here my next quetion for you guys. im pretty set on ordering this tomorrow. but i am still unsure of one thing. how low will this shifter hang below the ball holder. because i have a apex'i n1 cat back on my car and with the shrt thro i have on my em1 now, it sits about 1/2 to 1 inch above the exhaust piping. any one have any insight on this?...just dont want the two to hit. thanx again.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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My setup: Skunk2 Dual Bend SS, Skunk2 ****, and ES Bushings = SMOOTH
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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great!...thats what im hoping for to, i already have es bushings installed and hope that the skunk2 setup will improve shift feel alot.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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well i contacted s2 and i found out that the shifter will fit on my em1 and should clear my exhaust, but they were positive. thanx for the help...guess ill have to see how it fit when i get it installed.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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I have a complete swap from a dc2 came with skunk 2 dual bend and a skunk2 heavy shift **** in my ek ........super nice well balanced and smooth and doesn't jump around like cheap shifters with cheap *****... recomend it
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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thanks for the info. i ordered it up! ill have to see how she fits and functions when it gets here.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Here is how it sits up top...

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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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alright...looks good! thanks for the pic. is that in 1st or neutral?
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by longshot &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have the s2 dual bend, it [freak]in sucks, my **** slopps all over the place, its only been in there 2 - 3 years. to let you know</TD></TR></TABLE>

I doubt the shifter is the cause of the slop, more likely worn bushings or incorrect installation.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugen si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">prefer a higher **** position.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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looks like you put the shifter in backwards. like you need to turn it around. i have done that once before.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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1st

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugen si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright...looks good! thanks for the pic. is that in 1st or neutral?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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ok thanx.
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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quik update: got the S2 dual bend and S2 shift **** installed a few days ago. The results are amazing. much more precise throws. feels more comfortable to go through the gears and also slides into gears very smoothly. the position of the shifter puts the **** in the perfect position in all gears. i still notice some notchiness going into third at times but i think this is due to some of the play i still have left in the bushings up front by the spring pin connecting point. all in all i am very pleased with S2 shifter...and comparing it to my last short throw (unsure of the brand and was a single bend), the difference is night and day.
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugen si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">quik update: got the S2 dual bend and S2 shift **** installed a few days ago. The results are amazing. much more precise throws. feels more comfortable to go through the gears and also slides into gears very smoothly. the position of the shifter puts the **** in the perfect position in all gears. i still notice some notchiness going into third at times but i think this is due to some of the play i still have left in the bushings up front by the spring pin connecting point. all in all i am very pleased with S2 shifter...and comparing it to my last short throw (unsure of the brand and was a single bend), the difference is night and day. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm glad you like it
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