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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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Default Wheel Size Help: 16x7.5 +38mm offset... Too big?

I have a chance to pick up some BBS wheels for $100, they're 16x7.5 +38mm offset, in decent shape.

My question: Is this size ideal for my caR? What size tire should I run with these?

Any input is appreciated, I'm supposed to pick them up tomorrow sometime.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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Even if you cannot run them, as long as they are in decent shape $100 is a steal. I'd imagine you may have run run a 205/40 to keep from having rub issues.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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that's an excellent width and offset. get them!
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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You'll be fine up front on 215's. "Might" need a spacer in the rear.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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What kind of BBSs are they?
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by get RIGHT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You'll be fine up front on 215's. "Might" need a spacer in the rear.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If anything he'll need to roll the rear fender if he's lowered and took camber out.

But it'll be fine all the way around with a 215/45/16.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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my WEDS i had were 16x7 +33 i know its not the same size, but pretty close, only rubbed when i took clover leaf on/off ramps faster than speed posted. i have a pic somewhere if you'd like to see for somewhat of a comparison (sp?)
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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BBS on ITR FTMFW
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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Well our shop foreman just informed me that he can mill the hub down at his machine shop... So I can acheive MAYBE a +40-41mm offset no problem. It shouldn't be a problem then, and if it is, we have a fender roller.

Picking them up tomorrow, I've been wanting a wheel project lately.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BBS on ITR FTMFW </TD></TR></TABLE>


i'll have mine backfrom powder coating next week!
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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should be sweet dude, im running +33 or +28 with a 5mm spacer in the rear with 215 45 16 with just the lip rolled flat.. no camber adjust either
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well our shop foreman just informed me that he can mill the hub down at his machine shop... So I can acheive MAYBE a +40-41mm offset no problem. It shouldn't be a problem then, and if it is, we have a fender roller.

Picking them up tomorrow, I've been wanting a wheel project lately. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Leave em +38 and make it work.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 02:52 PM
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Well, the price is great, so it's not like you're going to be stuck with them.

As for their suitability, I would suggest giving some thought to what size and kind of tire you plan to put on them. For 16" wheels on an ITR, the best tire sizes are 205/45-16 and 215/45-16; both have an outer diameter within 1 percent of stock, and neither should rub (unless your car is slammed a whole lot more than people normally do). Most tires come in 205/45 or 215/45, not both. 215/45-16 tires are approved for mounting on wheels 7.0-8.0 inches wide, and will be perfect on 16x7.5. 205/45-16 tires are approved for 6.5-7.5, so you can use 16x7.5 although they may look a bit more "stretched" than on the 16x7 that is more typically used for our cars.

There aren't many tires in 215/45-16, but if you're looking for a supersticky tire on dry pavement, and you don't care that much about treadlife and wet traction, you are probably going to consider the excellent Falken Azenis RT-615 which comes in this size (or maybe the slightly less sticky Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212). So if you're planning to use the Azenis on these wheels, then 16x7.5 is perfect. There aren't a lot of longer-lasting "daily driving budget performance" type tires in 215/45-16 though; the Dunlop Direzza DZ101 is one of the very few, and it's a bit of a step down from the best, similarly-priced tires in its category (Kumho SPT, Yokohama S.drive, Fuzion ZRi), none of which is available in 215/45-16.

205/45-16 gives you a lot more choices, including those "daily driving budget performance" tires (Kumho SPT, Yokohama S.drive, Fuzion ZRi), the top-of-the-line Goodyear F1 GS-D3, the supersticky Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R, the all-season Kumho ASX if you need to occasionally drive on snow in the winter, etc. Again, you can use 205/45-16 on 16x7.5, and you might not mind the slightly stretched look - it's one of those things where if you're buying the wheels new and paying full price, you might choose 16x7 rather than 16x7.5, but when you're getting a great deal, you can live with the added width.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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^ Great information. Thank you.

Assuming 205/40/16 would be out of the question in your mind, Ken?
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 06:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^ Great information. Thank you.

Assuming 205/40/16 would be out of the question in your mind, Ken?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would not buy 205/40-16 tires for an ITR. (It's a good size for a CRX, del sol, or pre-'96 Civic, though.) That's 4.2 percent (a full inch) smaller in diameter than our stock tire size, and that's a huge difference. Stick with 205/45 or 215/45 when you buy tires.

HOWEVER... if the wheels come with 205/40-16 tires already on them, heck, they're free tires - and as long as you don't mind the kind of tires and the smaller look, you could go ahead and use 'em up. (I hate throwing out tires that still have tread on them!) Just get a set of 205/45-16 or 215/45-16 when they wear out and you need to replace them. Oh, and keep in mind that your speedometer and odometer will read 4.2 percent higher than normal with the 205/40.



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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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Well, people have a hard time understanding when they tell you 'You have first shot', not to sell them out from under you.

Glad I didn't start heading up there to pick them up this morning like planned.
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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Sorry to hear that. I hate when people don't hold to what they say.
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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Well the person that bought them out from under me, put them up for sale, literally, 10 minutes after he bought them... I tried to buy them AGAIN, and they got sold out from under me AGAIN.

... You're never going to believe this: They're for sale AGAIN.

Hopefully it'll be third time success... We'll see.

For sale thread one...

For sale thread two...

For sale thread three...

I swear I feel like I'm being punked.

But, some good news, they're +42mm offset, meaning I won't have to do any machine work.
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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But, some good news, they're +42mm offset, meaning I won't have to do any machine work. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you will to get lug nuts to work, it looks like....

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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

... You're never going to believe this: They're for sale AGAIN.

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Why would wanna buy them now, though. They got a bad vibe to em now, IMO.
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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and by the look of the pic I posted they are 16x7
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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... What the hell is going on with those lug passages?
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... What the hell is going on with those lug passages?</TD></TR></TABLE>

looks like they take a bolt type lug instead if the Honda type we are used to.......



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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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Epic fail.
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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couldn't a machine shop taper them?
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