Have any of you ITR owners put Prothane or ES poly shock bushings on your car?
I have a GSR and bought some ITR shocks for the car. So I figured I'll put on poly bushings as well.

But when I contacted a suspension shop and asked for ITR shock bushings, they told me Prothane doesn't have them listed, so they're not available. Wouldn't those bushing sbe the same for both cars? If you have them, do you happen to have a part #? TIA

 

The rear shocks are different between gsr and itr, the front shocks are the same.

 

Do you mean the bushings at the shock hat? Don't get polys. They are SOFTER than the stock ones. The stock ones are rubber coated metal bushings.

Warren

 

Warren, you amaze me with your knowledge.

 

Thanks for the reply and the tip about the stock one being stiffer. I don't know how to post a pic, but I am talking about #8 (top and bottom) on the pic on this link. If the link below doesn't work I'll try to figure out how to post the picture.

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.net/...SHOCK+ABSORBER

 

Yeah. Those are the ones. I have a full ES poly kit that I use for other bits and pieces. The stock versions are quite a bit harder than the poly ones. The only bad thing about the stockers is that they need to be drilled out for some shocks, like Konis.

Warren

 

Really glad I asked! Yeah, I agree, your knowledge is invaluable. I assume when you say the stock ones you are talking about the ITR, and they have to be stiffer than the GSR, right?

 

hmm..interesting.

So how about the shift linkage bushings? does the stock ITR have bushings better than Prothane Shift Linkage Bushings?

 

The ES shifter bushings are stiffer than stock ITR bushings.

Yes, I was referring to ITR shock bushings.

Warren

 

I meant the shift linkage bushings.

type r 01-1063 - who just ordered prothane shift linkage bushings for his type r.

 

Warren how are those rubber coated metal? THey are easily compressible. THey are 2 piece and have a metal sleeve in them. The Poly's shoudl be stiffer and reuse the metal sleeve, no?

Are you referring to drilling out the metal sleece for the bigger Koni piston?

 

You can reuse the metal sleeve (edit): with the polys if this is a stock width rod, but it is quite a bit squishier. The sleeve butts up against 2 metal plates on the stock bushings, because the stockers are pretty much entirely metal on one side, and have a hard rubber coating on the other. They're actually quite good, and I wouldn't replace them unless it's with spherical bearings. The poly ones are softer, and they have a bigger taper to them, so there isn't as much material there.

The Konis come with a sleeve which has a bigger hole, and this is why I had to drill out the stock bushings, so that the hole from the sleeve would match up w/ the one from in the bushings. I had a machine shop do this though, to make sure it was exact.

Warren


[Modified by Warren, 10:57 AM 7/19/2002]

 

YOu know what I just remembered. YOu are talking about ITR cpas and bushings and you are rights. ALL other inbtegras have different bushings and are not like that. THe are just rubber with the metal sleeve through the center. I unwittingly put GSR caps and bushings on my TEIN HA's and they are compleyely different than the ITR caps.

trey

 

so from the complete "hyper-flex" kit, which bushings are harder than the stock ones?
HYPER-FLEX SYSTEM Complete Master Bushing Set Includes: front and rear control arm bushings, front and rear shock bushings, front end links, steering rack bushings (power steering only), transmission shifter stabilizer bushings (manual transmission only), ball joint and tie rod end boots.

i just got my coilovers and would like to change the bushings while i'm installing them.

thanks for your help

argiris

 

If you are talking about the top hat bushings, then I don't think you are right. Fronts are also different.

cf.

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.net/...SHOCK+ABSORBER

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.net/...SHOCK+ABSORBER

 

I agree, caps are different for front and rear but shock bodies are different for rear only.

 

By shock bodies, I presume you mean the rear LCA mounting points of the shocks? Obviously, front and rear ITR shocks are different internally from standard Integra shocks.

 

exactly. Just the outter lower parts by body I meant outter casing.

 

I went to a local dealer to try to sort out the differences, and the guy confused me even more. He pulled the 94 GSR shock picture and the one for 97 ITR. Then he told me that the GSR doesn't have those bushings at the shock hat. He said all the 94 GSR had was the bumpstop (he just pointed to it).

That doesn't make sense, but I wasn't going to waste my time since he didn't seem to know what he was talking about. I just learned this, but according to the sales guy, if you pull up the pic and click on it, it will highlight if that particular model and year uses it. When he clicked on the 94 GSR's it didn't highlight.

The acuraautomotiveparts.net site doesn't list the Acura part #, I guess those are their own internal ID numbers. Anyway, they are the same for all the ITR and GSR bushings front and rear. In any case, they are pretty pricey. $9 each x8 = 72

I got the part # for one of the ITR's. Can anyone confirm the part number for the GSR?

 

No they are not. If you look closely at the first diagram, the standard Integra part is #7 and the other (Type-R) part is #8. The Carland number for #8 35682.

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.net/...SHOCK+ABSORBER

If you look at the rears, the standard Integra part is #17 and the other (Type-R) part #2, with an identical Carland number to the front Type-R parts of 35682.

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.net/...SHOCK+ABSORBER

In sum: the Type-R has different hat bushings than the standard Integra and uses the same bushings front and rear. A complete set of 8 is required (2 per corner).

Thanks to Jeff652 for help clearing this up.


[Modified by norice, 4:03 PM 7/19/2002]

 

Yeah, I see. I wasn't reading the diagram correctly. Thanks for clearing that up.
What confused me is that the guy at the dealer didn't mention that the GSR uses #7 and 17 instead of the the ITR's # 8 and 2.

 

Well, the diagram is not all that clear. Most dealers tend to know diddly about everything.

 

All except for the shock bushings are harder. Just be careful though if you're using them on the front lower control arms. They tend to bind/crack under racing conditions. To minimize the chance of this, keep them well lubed, and do not torque the bolts until the control arm is at the right angle (as if it was sitting on the ground).

Warren