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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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hey guys, so today I droped my B16 down through the engine bay..

I am changing my clutch, (Y1 cable tranny) but when I took off all the bolts that hold the tranny onto the block.. the trany wont slide off... I cant think of anything else that would be retaining it..

has this happened to anyone else?

any solutions?

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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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rock and pull...the pins are holding them in place...so u just have to rock and pull...
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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There is one thing you could try.

let a man do it j/k

Seriously though, are you 100% sure you've got all the bolts? they don't all thread in from the same direction.

also, you should remove the starter to make it easier.
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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Did you unbolt the the flywheel cover under the tranny? Theres a couple small bolts down there a lot of people miss... I even miss one sometimes and I know especially to look for them.
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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whatever you do don't try prying it...
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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i third that. check that you have all the bolt off, even the little guys and it will still be tough toget off. i just did a clutch for a kid and i used a pry bar to help get the tranny off.
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 89s1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also, you should remove the starter to make it easier.</TD></TR></TABLE>

this is easy to overlook.
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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Half shaft still on?
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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I really appreciate ll of your guys' input. I did not take the starter off or the flywheel cover.. I did however notice the bolts comming in from the drivers side

tomorrow I will remove both of those and give it a good shaking..

thanks again guys!
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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so i just took the starter off as well as looked at the flywheel cover and neither of those hold the tranny to the block.. what else could it be? I was rocking it pretty good .. still nothing..

please help!
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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get a cpl guys to sit on the motor.
if it still doesnt work, let one of them try, frustration brings adreniline out of a percentage of ppl, and that may be all it takes.
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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I hear you on that man... but I have been rocking this thing pretty good.. Y shouldnt you pry it?.. evenly of course..
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 12:45 PM
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if your sure that you got all the bolts then it should be the tranny mount or the half axle behind the block and if thats out then look again theres a bolt some where you missed.
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 12:50 PM
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the tranny mount is completely off, and the half shaft has been out.. I have been looking for a bolt for two days.. maybe I just need someone else to help out.. idk
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatcht9x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the tranny mount is completely off, and the half shaft has been out.. I have been looking for a bolt for two days.. maybe I just need someone else to help out.. idk </TD></TR></TABLE>

there has to be a bolt that is still in there.....did u take off the bolt that is right under the clutch slave cylinder? or try taking off the flywheel cover cuz i think it makes it easier to rock the tranny back and forth...
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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okay everyone!! you can officially all take turns destroying me now.. as it turns out.. 89S1 and Tyson had it right all along.. It was the starter bolt that was [freak]ing me over.. I was just taking off the part that had the power going to it.. not the whole assembly.. because low and behold.. there was like a 6'' bolt going right from the starter to the block..

I really appreciate all your guys' help!!

I wouldn't be anywhere without all of you

im sure ill be back on here tonite for the reinstall..

anything I should remember while swaping the clutch??

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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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Make sure you've got the right alignment tool, and dont touch the mating faces with your greasy fingers

I'm happy to help, just make sure you return the favour for someone on here if you can one day in the future.

Also, thanks for saying thanks too, its nice to feel appreciated
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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haha yea I am making sure of those two!!.. does anyone know the torque setting for bolting the pressure plate to the flywheel?

thanks again guys!
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatcht9x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haha yea I am making sure of those two!!.. does anyone know the torque setting for bolting the pressure plate to the flywheel?

thanks again guys! </TD></TR></TABLE>

19 ft lbs according to the shop manual across the hall in my workshop

*wondering why a DIY'er like yourself doesn't have one already*
they're available for download in PDF files even if you're too cheap to buy one


Modified by 89s1 at 7:32 PM 6/26/2008
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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well I have one but it isnt very good at all.. you are right.. I should invest in one.. thanks for the info is it also 19lbs for the flywheel by itself?

thanks alot man

also, what manuel did u buy that has 89 jdm B16 specs in it? cause the 99-00 si's have hydraulic clutches on them.. and other different parts like that..or is it all the same for the most part?
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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Remember to tighten the pressure plate evenly too! I almost made that mistake, my boss would have killed me..
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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so when you guys are all done over on scion-tech figuring out how to put hydros on your xb maybe someone could get this guy the specs. Hey how many batterys do i need if i want to hop 3 feet?

on a side note my 400whp crx is almost finished. i put a ford 9" out back and transverse mounted my d16 with a shot of alcohol!
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatcht9x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> also, what manuel did u buy that has 89 jdm B16 specs in it? </TD></TR></TABLE>

http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 12:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats a really good reference I didnt really see the torque specs for the clutch though.. unless I missed them
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 02:53 AM
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Jack car up.
chalk back tires.
take off front tires.
pop lower ball joints
swing the whole arm out the way
pull axels out of tranny only
remove half shaft
remove radios rods
put jack under engine to support it
remove anything in the way of the tranny.
remove t bracket motor mount
remove tranny motor mount
remove shift linkage
have another jack under the tranny
remove all tranny bolts
slide tranny off
remove old clutch
remove pressure plate
remove pilot bearing
remove throw out bearing
remove flywheel
take flywheel to get resurfaced
reinstall flywheel with loc tite
torque down to specs criss cross pattern
instal new pliot bearing with high temp greease
instal new throw out bearing with high temp grease
grease shaft aswell
insert clutch with alignment tool
put on pressure plate
torque down to specs with loctite and criss cross pattern
remove aligment tool
slide tranny back on
and reinstall everything the same way they came off.
Put loctite on all tranny bolts.
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