to o-ring or not to o-ring that is the question?
This is a debate we were having here a little earlier on in the day and had a bunch of people who swear there is no reason for them and some people who say they are needed.
what is everyone else thoughts?
what is everyone else thoughts?
I have had the same question in my mind No o-ring and gaskets can go. But at the same time I've been told you have to o-ring. GE say's no more than 15lbs on none o-ring blocks can we get some real solid information?
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I made a post about this over a year ago and there was a lot of good information in that thread. Do a search under my screenname and it should come up in the archives. It's a very good thread and a very good debate!!
we sagest it on high boost motors not that it will not seal with out it but its good insurance. eggum never ran a oring just a .005 step deck that's how they wanted her blocks but other racers love the ornig they say it gives them a little more sealing power just in case. i leave it up to the customer preference.
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Robert I know it has been a while but we ALWAYS had an O'Ringed block.............we also ran the stepped deck which is going to start another debate Ha Ha.
I am all about O'ringed blocks.........................my streetcar motor in my DSM is O'ringed, along with the spare shortblock sitting in the trailer.
Robert I know it has been a while but we ALWAYS had an O'Ringed block.............we also ran the stepped deck which is going to start another debate Ha Ha.
I am all about O'ringed blocks.........................my streetcar motor in my DSM is O'ringed, along with the spare shortblock sitting in the trailer.
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Robert I know it has been a while but we ALWAYS had an O'Ringed block.............we also ran the stepped deck which is going to start another debate Ha Ha.
I am all about O'ringed blocks.........................my streetcar motor in my DSM is O'ringed, along with the spare shortblock sitting in the trailer.
</TD></TR></TABLE> lol i could have swore you were the one who didn't like the oring but i guess i was wrong but ether way i have seen big boost with out it hold but why not have a little extra sealing power
i have seen more guys wish they would have oringed there blocks then i have seen regret oringing there blocks for sure
Robert I know it has been a while but we ALWAYS had an O'Ringed block.............we also ran the stepped deck which is going to start another debate Ha Ha.
I am all about O'ringed blocks.........................my streetcar motor in my DSM is O'ringed, along with the spare shortblock sitting in the trailer.
</TD></TR></TABLE> lol i could have swore you were the one who didn't like the oring but i guess i was wrong but ether way i have seen big boost with out it hold but why not have a little extra sealing power
i have seen more guys wish they would have oringed there blocks then i have seen regret oringing there blocks for sure
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7.87 @184mph QUICKEST and FASTEST FWD DRAG HONDA IN THE WORLD!
Gotta Love the Sig...Jeromie did you go to e-town on Sunday again?
P.S. Sorry off topic..
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Stock gasket ( MLS ) = copper o-ringed block - flat deck head
Copper gasket (standard) = steel o-ringed block - reciever grooved head
SCE ICS copper gasket = no o-ringed block - flat deck head
Step deck is always recommended in my opinion. I use up to .009 step deck on some blocks, but the standard is .003"! but BEWARE, the block MUST be honed with a TQ plate if you use a step deck!!! Otherwise you are just asking for bore distortion.
Copper gasket (standard) = steel o-ringed block - reciever grooved head
SCE ICS copper gasket = no o-ringed block - flat deck head
Step deck is always recommended in my opinion. I use up to .009 step deck on some blocks, but the standard is .003"! but BEWARE, the block MUST be honed with a TQ plate if you use a step deck!!! Otherwise you are just asking for bore distortion.
well ive already experienced an issue with a stock deck & a cometic head gasket.
must of went in the beginning of the run then up top this happens.
this was only running 30 psi also car ran for over a year not 1 problem then things went wrong. now im going for 40+psi so i dont need theese issues.
notice everything else looks good, lol
must of went in the beginning of the run then up top this happens.
this was only running 30 psi also car ran for over a year not 1 problem then things went wrong. now im going for 40+psi so i dont need theese issues.
notice everything else looks good, lol



