In car video of spin and off from Monday before adjusting the suspension. VIR
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The Mugen rear 26mm bar changed the stiffness of the rear a lot more than was expected. before I adjusted the suspension and made the front stiffer than the rear dampening, I could not control the car with throttle steer; it was sliding out waaaay too easily.
The Kansas City crew got a good laugh out of my spin at the top of the S's, so I decided to go ahead and post it up. I got very lucky....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R87O_xZF7ZM
Off before the roller coaster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GssiiNHwd1c
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Session 1 of the second day. Doing better now that the suspension is adjusted. Had my battery not died on the camera I would have had some kick *** video of the second session of day 2. I got comfortable in the S's doing 115 and holding full throttle all the way up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lrTD-liyaI
Modified by MOVE OVER at 7:47 AM 6/13/2008
The Kansas City crew got a good laugh out of my spin at the top of the S's, so I decided to go ahead and post it up. I got very lucky....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R87O_xZF7ZM
Off before the roller coaster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GssiiNHwd1c
ADDED ANOTHER VIDEO
Session 1 of the second day. Doing better now that the suspension is adjusted. Had my battery not died on the camera I would have had some kick *** video of the second session of day 2. I got comfortable in the S's doing 115 and holding full throttle all the way up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lrTD-liyaI
Modified by MOVE OVER at 7:47 AM 6/13/2008
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R87O_xZF7ZM
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Woah!
Massive pucker factor. Don't worry you'll chit that seat cover out... someday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R87O_xZF7ZM
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Woah!
Massive pucker factor. Don't worry you'll chit that seat cover out... someday.
Wild stuff. Glad you made it out alright both times. I went off once...
It was scary stuff.
It was scary stuff.
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Woah!
Massive pucker factor. Don't worry you'll chit that seat cover out... someday.
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LOLZ!!!!
Kevin -- Those were some serious spins in vid one , and that hill is pretty big to go down in the 2nd , was the undecarrage ok ?
Woah!
Massive pucker factor. Don't worry you'll chit that seat cover out... someday.
</TD></TR></TABLE>LOLZ!!!!
Kevin -- Those were some serious spins in vid one , and that hill is pretty big to go down in the 2nd , was the undecarrage ok ?
Sweet vids man! Glad everything was ok
You need to put the treebark back on the hood, I dont remember seeing you the whole two days.... I remember you rollin me in the black car last year.....
You need to put the treebark back on the hood, I dont remember seeing you the whole two days.... I remember you rollin me in the black car last year.....
wow that looked like a crazy ride! I got loose at the top of the esses one time. the rear started to go but I was able to catch it. I just took a breath and stared at the ditch as I drove by....
glad everything worked out ok for you man. I dont know if I got to meet you this year so maybe next
glad everything worked out ok for you man. I dont know if I got to meet you this year so maybe next
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow that looked like a crazy ride! I got loose at the top of the esses one time. the rear started to go but I was able to catch it. I just took a breath and stared at the ditch as I drove by....
glad everything worked out ok for you man. I dont know if I got to meet you this year so maybe next
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Thats one thing I learned a long time ago......I was at limerock driving Vipers around the skidpad, there is one tree around the skidpad, instructors told us, DO NOT LOOK AT THE TREE, some dude smashes into the tree came back and said I was looking at da tree! lol Now where ever I go I look at where I want to go and not where I dont.
glad everything worked out ok for you man. I dont know if I got to meet you this year so maybe next
</TD></TR></TABLE>Thats one thing I learned a long time ago......I was at limerock driving Vipers around the skidpad, there is one tree around the skidpad, instructors told us, DO NOT LOOK AT THE TREE, some dude smashes into the tree came back and said I was looking at da tree! lol Now where ever I go I look at where I want to go and not where I dont.
From the looks of the vids it is a good thing u were not 120+ up the esses and that happened. I notice that you seem to have a death grip on the wheel. Keep those hands less tense! Smoother steering input.
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I didn't have time to put the MOVE OVER on the hood this year due to a mid night tranny swap on Shaun's car
But with the problems I was having I didn't figure I would be passing many people the first day anyhow. Part of the Cat material came loose and got wedged between the secondary oxygen sensor and the opening in the pipe. It blocked so much air flow that I could not accelerate. I was letting people pass me on the back straight while still full throttle. Doing 85 where I am typically going 125 towards the end of the back straight.
But with the problems I was having I didn't figure I would be passing many people the first day anyhow. Part of the Cat material came loose and got wedged between the secondary oxygen sensor and the opening in the pipe. It blocked so much air flow that I could not accelerate. I was letting people pass me on the back straight while still full throttle. Doing 85 where I am typically going 125 towards the end of the back straight.
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Volk wheels, Azenis, Mugen Low Downs, Mugen 26 mm rear bar.
When it was stepping out on me I had the dampening at 1 in the front and 1 in the rear. Changed the front to 5 and the rear to 3 = problem solved. Very controlable from then on.
When it was stepping out on me I had the dampening at 1 in the front and 1 in the rear. Changed the front to 5 and the rear to 3 = problem solved. Very controlable from then on.
LOLs. Kevin, I dont think that vid is ever gonna get old. 
I'm still sticking with my original assesment. Too much steering wheel input and throttle lift oversteer together. Next time, CPR!!!

I'm still sticking with my original assesment. Too much steering wheel input and throttle lift oversteer together. Next time, CPR!!!
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Oh, my god, please be careful. You were pointed right at a worker station at one point.
Was there nobody in the right seat?
Oh, my god, please be careful. You were pointed right at a worker station at one point.
Was there nobody in the right seat?
Same thing almost happened to me at turn 10. My back end came around a bit, not too bad though, I corrected, and stayed on track. I won't lie and say it wasn't fun though. 
My instructor wasn't too fond of it, needless-to-say.
Glad the car/you are ok.

My instructor wasn't too fond of it, needless-to-say.
Glad the car/you are ok.


