Acura Integra Type-R All Integra Type R Discussions

Problem With New Cobalt GTS Pad Install?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 01:46 PM
  #1  
richardb53's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 391
Likes: 0
From: Chesterfield, VA, USA
Default Problem With New Cobalt GTS Pad Install?

Well prepping for EXPO8, I installed new Coblt GTS pads on my 01 ITR abourt 150 miles ago and they don't seem to be seated properly. It looks like only about 50% of the pad is contacting the rotor. I bedded the pads close to what they recommend. They also squeek like hell after the pedal release for 50 to 100 feet. The rotors are new as well. Rotors seem to be fine as there is no wobble or indication of warpage. Take a look at the pics below and tell me what you think. Thanks.

Left side:

Right side:
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 01:50 PM
  #2  
RTW DC2R's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 18,151
Likes: 2
From: Hollywood Babylon
Default

hows the bite? they look like they are hardly touching? any wheel bearing "play"? my GT Sports used to make a ton of noise under normal driving off the brakes. I had a bad wheel bearing with a lot of play and the pads were just riding the rotor. replaced the bearing and most of the noise is gone. those look to me like they need to be bedded some more. 70mph-0 HARD on the brakes.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 01:57 PM
  #3  
jgirard's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,658
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis, MO
Default Re: (RTW DC2R)

what are the proper bedding techniques, I will be replacing my front and back with these tonight
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 01:59 PM
  #4  
walker111's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,696
Likes: 0
From: VirNgOiVnAia
Default Re: (RTW DC2R)

I think there was just a bad batch of pads made by Cobalt.....Mine did the samething, finally after 2000 road miles and 150 hard track miles, they are finally using all of the rotor. Granted I was only having the problem on one side, looked the exact same.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 02:01 PM
  #5  
Evs-One's Avatar
Solbros Owns Me
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 14,462
Likes: 6
From: Vancouver, WA, USA
Default Re: (walker111)

a couple good really hard stops will get those pads fully seated.....if not, it may take a a hundred miles or so...and they will eventually wear unevenly- will still perform good though
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 02:05 PM
  #6  
Dave_B's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 12,098
Likes: 1
From: blavica
Default

I agree... Bed them harder/more.

you should get good contact after some hard bedding.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 02:06 PM
  #7  
richardb53's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 391
Likes: 0
From: Chesterfield, VA, USA
Default Re: (jgirard)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jgirard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what are the proper bedding techniques, I will be replacing my front and back with these tonight</TD></TR></TABLE>
Go here.
http://www.hawkperformance.com...s.php
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 02:07 PM
  #8  
jgirard's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,658
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis, MO
Default Re: (richardb53)

Thanks Richard
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 02:09 PM
  #9  
richardb53's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 391
Likes: 0
From: Chesterfield, VA, USA
Default Re: (RTW DC2R)

They bite great now, wonder how good they will be with full contact!
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 02:20 PM
  #10  
ithrowpoop's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,474
Likes: 0
From: N.Y.
Default Re: (richardb53)

mine did the same thing front and rear. after about 100 miles and 2 auto x's they got better. they still squeal worse than a stuck pig.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 02:40 PM
  #11  
get RIGHT's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,299
Likes: 0
From: selling YOU a Honda or Acura
Default Re: (ithrowpoop)

After going thru 3 sets of GTS's. You REALLY have to bed these hard. Don't be shy about it.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 02:48 PM
  #12  
97 TYPE-R 312's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 2,787
Likes: 0
From: Northern Virginia
Default Re: (get RIGHT)

This was the problem some of us were going through last at AT Expo.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2082004

Just to see if this comes up again...

-Victor
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 03:54 PM
  #13  
white rocket's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,195
Likes: 0
From: vancity
Default Re: (97 TYPE-R 312)

I would get up to about 60-70mph and hit the brakes HARD until I get down to 5mph. Then do it all over again. Took about 5 to 6 go's to get them in there. The squeaking should go away after the pads are worn down a bit.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 04:06 PM
  #14  
itralex's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,150
Likes: 0
From: Richmond,, British Columbia, Canada
Default Re: (white rocket)

you need to bed these pads really HARD

I bedded mine at night and saw sparks fly past my window
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 03:50 AM
  #15  
walker111's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,696
Likes: 0
From: VirNgOiVnAia
Default Re: (white rocket)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by white rocket &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would get up to about 60-70mph and hit the brakes HARD until I get down to 5mph. Then do it all over again. Took about 5 to 6 go's to get them in there. The squeaking should go away after the pads are worn down a bit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Haha, after being frustrated with this after a couple of weeks, I did a 120mph to 5mph with smoke pouring from both wheels.... Still didnt work til after/during the we-todd event.
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 03:57 AM
  #16  
RTW DC2R's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 18,151
Likes: 2
From: Hollywood Babylon
Default

i didnt know about that tab issue, so Im gonna have a look
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 04:23 AM
  #17  
Jon D's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 11,340
Likes: 1
From: Homie dont, play that, USA
Default Re: (RTW DC2R)

&lt;---still supporting our EXPO Sponsor!

Everyone experiences growing pains, er'ya know?
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 04:25 AM
  #18  
jgirard's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,658
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis, MO
Default Re: (Jon D)

Got my GTS's on last night, they do squeal like a pig but man do they bite, need to hit 'em harder though I believe
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 05:32 AM
  #19  
citrus3000psi's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,141
Likes: 2
From: Brownsburg, IN, United States
Default Re: (walker111)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by walker111 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Haha, after being frustrated with this after a couple of weeks, I did a 120mph to 5mph with smoke pouring from both wheels.... Still didnt work til after/during the we-todd event.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you locking the tires up? Because this will not bed in brakes.
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 05:59 AM
  #20  
R.Kelley's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,439
Likes: 0
From: The North East Region of America
Default Re: (citrus3000psi)

i had the tab problem at last expo. love these pads
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 07:07 AM
  #21  
walker111's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,696
Likes: 0
From: VirNgOiVnAia
Default Re: (citrus3000psi)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by citrus3000psi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Are you locking the tires up? Because this will not bed in brakes. </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol, of course not.
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 07:18 AM
  #22  
white rocket's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,195
Likes: 0
From: vancity
Default Re: (walker111)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by walker111 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Haha, after being frustrated with this after a couple of weeks, I did a 120mph to 5mph with smoke pouring from both wheels.... Still didnt work til after/during the we-todd event.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, my first track event this year really helped out with the squealing. They sounded like a dump truck braking before. I had some smoke screen ish going on too
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 08:13 AM
  #23  
citrus3000psi's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,141
Likes: 2
From: Brownsburg, IN, United States
Default Re: (walker111)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by walker111 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

lol, of course not. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Then explain the smoke pouring out. I'm curious to know how/why they are doing this.
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 08:24 AM
  #24  
RTW DC2R's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 18,151
Likes: 2
From: Hollywood Babylon
Default Re: (citrus3000psi)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by citrus3000psi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Then explain the smoke pouring out. I'm curious to know how/why they are doing this.</TD></TR></TABLE>

probably meant brake dust or smoke from the pads getting hot? i have seen sparks before at night too. it was pretty cool
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 08:53 AM
  #25  
walker111's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,696
Likes: 0
From: VirNgOiVnAia
Default Re: (citrus3000psi)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by citrus3000psi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Then explain the smoke pouring out. I'm curious to know how/why they are doing this.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just from the pads getting hot...
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:55 AM.