Limits of the stock b18c1
What are the limits of the stock B18c1? What turbo should I run if I am trying to attain that power level? Sorry for the noob questions I am new to the honda scene.
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attain that power level??? what power level you lookin to attain? my buddy made 440 on a stock block and still reved it to 9.5k and it ran fine all day long...but as said before a good tune is key.
The "limit" is mostly going to be up to the turbo..... but I guess you're only limited by the engine in a sense that it only has 4 cylinders.
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I say you can make 9 million wheel horse power easily with no tune.. 
eeh not really..
I'm with you on this one rick..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rickdrizzle »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">People claim the stock limit for the gsr is 330whp, around there. with the bone stock motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It all depends on the tune/tuner.

eeh not really..
I'm with you on this one rick..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rickdrizzle »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">People claim the stock limit for the gsr is 330whp, around there. with the bone stock motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It all depends on the tune/tuner.
Searching is always a good way to find the answers you're looking for.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all-mtr-teg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So what do you say is the limit for a 4 banger?</TD></TR></TABLE>
In general? that's impossible to calculate... depends on the bore, stroke, compression....
In general? that's impossible to calculate... depends on the bore, stroke, compression....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dark@Powers »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The "limit" is mostly going to be up to the turbo..... but I guess you're only limited by the engine in a sense that it only has 4 cylinders.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Care to elaborate?
Care to elaborate?
right along with this whats the boost limit on a stock gsr i have heard 6 and i have heard 18 seen a guy run 20 this weekend on a stock block bottom end that is he had the victor and other bo
psi doesn't dictate anything.
you can run 10psi in a t3/t4 .57 trim and make more power than running 10psi in a t3.
you have to base your goals on horsepower. and from what I've read and heard, horsepower on a completely stock gsr can be reached at 330whp which would be the limit.
you can run 10psi in a t3/t4 .57 trim and make more power than running 10psi in a t3.
you have to base your goals on horsepower. and from what I've read and heard, horsepower on a completely stock gsr can be reached at 330whp which would be the limit.
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Care to elaborate?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sure, I was referring to how engines all have there limit, "in a sense" being the key word. It was in a satirical fashion..... a bit OT, but I did not think anyone was going to analyze it.
I'm guessing you took it the wrong way and thought I was trying to support the idea that us Honda guys are limited by the # of our cylinders as apposed to the "other" guys who have limitless engines with their upped cylinder count..?
Care to elaborate?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sure, I was referring to how engines all have there limit, "in a sense" being the key word. It was in a satirical fashion..... a bit OT, but I did not think anyone was going to analyze it.
I'm guessing you took it the wrong way and thought I was trying to support the idea that us Honda guys are limited by the # of our cylinders as apposed to the "other" guys who have limitless engines with their upped cylinder count..?
I used to think the limit was 300-325; lately I've had a few people I know make 350whp(low boost)-380whp(high boost) on 93 pump (its been running fine for 1yr already)---Another person i know made 467whp on E85 and has been running for about 5 months now. It all depends on how reliable you really want your car to be
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dark@Powers »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Sure, I was referring to how engines all have there limit, "in a sense" being the key word. It was in a satirical fashion..... a bit OT, but I did not think anyone was going to analyze it.
I'm guessing you took it the wrong way and thought I was trying to support the idea that us Honda guys are limited by the # of our cylinders as apposed to the "other" guys who have limitless engines with their upped cylinder count..?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I didn't take any offense but Im sure some may read your statement and begin an argument. But you're correct, there is a limit to a 4 cylinder's power, whether it's an NA or FI build. I was just wondering what your thoughts were as to the upper limit for a 4 banger FI build? I remember reading an article about a 4,000 hp integra, however, it was like a 4.? L custom 4 cylinder on nitro methane and mad boost
Sure, I was referring to how engines all have there limit, "in a sense" being the key word. It was in a satirical fashion..... a bit OT, but I did not think anyone was going to analyze it.
I'm guessing you took it the wrong way and thought I was trying to support the idea that us Honda guys are limited by the # of our cylinders as apposed to the "other" guys who have limitless engines with their upped cylinder count..?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I didn't take any offense but Im sure some may read your statement and begin an argument. But you're correct, there is a limit to a 4 cylinder's power, whether it's an NA or FI build. I was just wondering what your thoughts were as to the upper limit for a 4 banger FI build? I remember reading an article about a 4,000 hp integra, however, it was like a 4.? L custom 4 cylinder on nitro methane and mad boost
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by red_crx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I used to think the limit was 300-325; lately I've had a few people I know make 350whp(low boost)-380whp(high boost) on 93 pump (its been running fine for 1yr already)---Another person i know made 467whp on E85 and has been running for about 5 months now. It all depends on how reliable you really want your car to be
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E85 doesn't count.
</TD></TR></TABLE>E85 doesn't count.
Well I am not looking for something to dragrace I am just looking to get around 300whp, And I am curious what the most reliable yet inexpensive turbo set up would be?
that would still be reliable
that would still be reliable
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mattiej »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well I am not looking for something to dragrace I am just looking to get around 300whp, And I am curious what the most reliable yet inexpensive turbo set up would be?
that would still be reliable</TD></TR></TABLE>
post up in the force induction forum. tell them you want atleast 300whp and they'll guide you the right way.
that would still be reliable</TD></TR></TABLE>
post up in the force induction forum. tell them you want atleast 300whp and they'll guide you the right way.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rickdrizzle »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
post up in the force induction forum. tell them you want atleast 300whp and they'll guide you the right way.
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That's what i'd do. In your first post, just tell everyone what you're using (i.e. stock block GSR) and what your budget is for the project. Then list your goals and use for the setup. If you want around 300whp, let them know. Its not that uncommon of a power goal for a stock block so you'll have no trouble finding the answers your need.
post up in the force induction forum. tell them you want atleast 300whp and they'll guide you the right way.
</TD></TR></TABLE>That's what i'd do. In your first post, just tell everyone what you're using (i.e. stock block GSR) and what your budget is for the project. Then list your goals and use for the setup. If you want around 300whp, let them know. Its not that uncommon of a power goal for a stock block so you'll have no trouble finding the answers your need.
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