Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

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Old May 26, 2008 | 11:30 PM
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i do not get this. is being tune really that big of a HP gain? me and my best friend have the exact same car. Civic Hatches. I have a 98 B18C wit BLOX IM, PasswordJDM Intake, Megan Headers, Apexi N1 catback and Skunk2 Tuner stage 1 cams running a OB2 P72. I have CF hood and Trunk. He has a 95B18C Skunk2 Pro IM, Blox 70 MM TB, same intake, Greddy header and custom black exhuast but he has a hondata s100 tune, he has no A/C and PS. he smokes me up and down the highway. i mean there is no close hanging he SMOKES me. i cant figure this out. i know he aint spraying he is my best friend. any ideas? i hope i got it in the right section.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 02:52 AM
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Well, yes, a majority of HT members will even say the tune is "everything". The stock ECU may not know how to respond to the bolt-ons, and is configured for stock everything, and economy-minded.

The S100, however, is tuned for power based on the modifications done, by a real person who is working on one specific car, instead of 10 million generic stock cars.

Tuning helps. :-)
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Old May 27, 2008 | 03:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Davus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, yes, a majority of HT members will even say the tune is "everything". The stock ECU may not know how to respond to the bolt-ons, and is configured for stock everything, and economy-minded.

The S100, however, is tuned for power based on the modifications done, by a real person who is working on one specific car, instead of 10 million generic stock cars.

Tuning helps. :-)</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old May 27, 2008 | 03:35 AM
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As mild as the tuner series stage 1 cam is, it's pretty silly to think that you'd make any more power without actually tuning the engine.

On my stock H22, I picked up a peak of 5hp and 5ft.lb up top, and 10hp and 10ft.lb in the midrange over the stock basemap. Only took a couple hours on the dyno.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 04:06 AM
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My theory is this: If you're not going to tune, dont waste your time buying parts.

If you dont tune for the parts you buy, your engine will keep thinking its all stock; therefore, you'll never make any additional power. A tune (even a good basemap) will open up some unseen hp.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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i know this is a nub question...but on a tune how much HP is opened up? i see being tuned is a huge HP gain.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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There's no way to answer that question. There are too many variables involved. But if you get a chipped ecu and get your car custom tuned then maybe you'll fair better against your friend.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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I picked up 10hp and 10 ft.lb in the midrange on my stock H22 over the basemap.

Dyno tune&gt;*
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Old May 27, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18CivicEJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's no way to answer that question. There are too many variables involved. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly. It really depends on the setup. For instance, my stock GSR went from 156whp to 315whp when i got tuned...granted my setup is a tad different than yours
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Old May 27, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Exactly. It really depends on the setup. For instance, my stock GSR went from 156whp to 315whp when i got tuned...granted my setup is a tad different than yours </TD></TR></TABLE>

You must has snail
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Old May 27, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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okay so being tuned is a big thing. i apreciate you guys answer. ^_^
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