Ok well i have a 94 integra ls, and i was thinking i wanted to go with the JDM B20 and if it was a good idea to go with the same ls tranny on the b20 what do u guys think or what tranny should be better? oh and by the way i have a gsr head, i dont want to put it on the ls because i think my engine is about to give up on me so what do u guys think... thnx

 

Sounds good but I would try to find a GSR or B16 tranny.

 

but is there anything wrong with the ls tranny on the b20 or its just the gears are going to be to long?

 

first off, are you staying all motor or turbo in the future? sounds like you have quite a bit of homework to do. ditch the ls tranny and go gsr or b16. if you got the cash itr. what makes you think your motors going out? if it feels sluggish i would check your compression. might just need new rings and a hone. your motor might be worth saving and doing an lsvtec. with the money you will spend on a jdm b20 plus shipping, i would just find a set of itr pistons on houstonimports.com, arp rod bolts and new rings. dont forget the golden eagle vtec conversion kit and you will be at or just a little above the cost of a b20b in stock form. dont forget to get a new gsr oil and water pump. it might cost you a few hundred bucks to do this but make no mistake, it will be wayyyyyy more reliable than a stock b20b.

 

well yeah i was thinking going turbo in the future but for now i just want a b20 my bro just got one for 600 with shipping from cali he has it in his car but he has the gsr tranny ...and well the ls engine i think its about to give up since it has over 200K miles on the motor and the tranny has 80K it was automatic but made it manual i bought the car for 500 from a mechanic who had a lean on it it wouldnt start but got it running and when i did it would just keep on heating up and what not changed the thermostat and radiator and all the hoses but still keeps on over heating i was going to make it ls vtec but said hmm since the motor has over 200K why do that just get a new engine and drop the vtec head and i just dront trust Houston-imports.com bc most of the stuff there is stolen

 

Go ls-Vtec Keep the LS tranny for mpg's, you car will be faster, more reliable and have more status than a B20 any day.

 

no doubt. i have a stock b20z in my ls right now with gsr tranny and for nonvtec, it feels quick early in the rpm's. i also have a gsr head im waiting to put on as well. i think you know the answer to your tranny question. go gsr if you daily drive it. i made a thread about guessing what tranny i have based on rpm , gear, and speed. most if not everyone said that cruising at 80 on the freeway im 5th gear my rpms would be a bit higher with a b16 tranny over a gsr. with gas prices and ****, you might as well go gsr. if you really want good gas then go ls but i found that the gsr is a good medium as far as gas and performence go.also good for you by not buying from a place you feel parts might be stolen and sold. every big city has an import forum with shady classifieds. you just have to be on the boards long enough to know who the crooks are. good luck man.

 

yeah well the money has something to do with it other wise i would go with the gsr and i have the vtec conversion and i was going to put on the ls but i dont want to get something stolen and then get pulled over and they asking why i have something stolen that **** happen to my bro he bought a stolen tranny and when he got his **** taken away for street racing they found out it was stolen and he didnt know. But i guess ill go with the ls tranny for a while until i get more cash for the gsr tranny well thanks guys for the help.

 

But is i tried searching the net for a vid with somebody with a b20 vtec and a ls tranny but i couldnt find one just to see how it would pull but if someone can find one and post it here i would appreciate it

 

just completely forget the b20 they are one hundred percent waste of money. They are horrible with a vtec head. Keep the LS do it right put the GSR head on it and call it a night.

 

yeah i know dude i wanted to go with my ls vtec but the engine has more than 200k and i dont want to spend that much money rebuilding it so ill just get the JDM b20b for right now and drop the ls tranny and then just get something else but why is it that the b20 is a waste of money? whats so bad about it

 

A rebuild is about 500 tops. and you will have a brand new motor that will be pushing 185hp if tuned correctly.

B20 lower hp for higher fuel consumption. Minimal Compatability with other B-series engine in terms of parts and bolt ons. Plus you dont know the quality of it anyway. 90% of "jdm" motors have more than the 40k they claim. and they dont work as well when they have a vtec head put on them. I know from experience. i have built 2 ls vtecs and a B20 vtec. i know what works and what does not.

Take my Advice, Save the money, Keep the LS trans for gas mileage. You will be happy with your ls vtec. Or you could just Rebuild your LS and go turbo

 

500 for parts tops. you should be able to do the work yourself in a weekend

 

iight bro thanks for the help i guess ill just rebuild the motor just have to get the parts

 

I'm running a b20b in my DC4 with an LS tranny and love it.. perfect setup for daily driver, but dont get me wrong.. after a little while i do plan on picking up a GSR tranny..

 

iight thnx alot ppl but i decided to just wait and see what else i could find and i think today i found what i was looking for i didnt get the jdm b20 but found a b18c1 and got it for 1 grand :D yeah i got a steal on it so time to take off the old ls and drop that gsr thnx alot guys will start another thread and keep u guys updated on my swap :D

 

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you serious??????????


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Horseofcourse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A rebuild is about 500 tops. and you will have a brand new motor that will be pushing 185hp if tuned correctly.

B20 lower hp for higher fuel consumption. Minimal Compatability with other B-series engine in terms of parts and bolt ons. Plus you dont know the quality of it anyway. 90% of "jdm" motors have more than the 40k they claim. and they dont work as well when they have a vtec head put on them. I know from experience. i have built 2 ls vtecs and a B20 vtec. i know what works and what does not.

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500 tops for a rebuild? not in a million years. new pistons, rings, bearings head bolts, rod bolts. machine work, head gasket, oil pump, water pump, gasket kit, vtec conversion kit, fluids........ this is the reason your b20 were unreliable. if you did all this for 500 buck then you must of bought your parts at the quikie mart. you say minimal compatability with other b-series. you must be talking about the pistons because almost every other part from an ls, gsr or type r motor can be put on a b20. also how do they not work well with a vtec head????? they are just as reliable as any well built motor. stock b20vtec tuned will eat a stock lsvtec tuned all day.

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Take my Advice, Save the money, Keep the LS trans for gas mileage. You will be happy with your ls vtec. Or you could just Rebuild your LS and go turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>

your advice sucks..... seriously

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its obvious you are retarded. go to the all motor forum and post this. those guys will laugh at you.

 

I have a 94 LS as well. I bought the car with an LS with pr3 pistons and bolt ons. The car spun a rod bearing the next day. So I ended up buying the b20b from HMO. Car is super strong for what it is. I am still using the LS tranny but I do about 60 miles daily commute to work (Hendrick Honda) so I'll keep the LS tranny for now. I did just order Brian Crower BC0020 & BC0022 Cams and Valvetrain Kit for the B20, it should bring it alive. Be careful on your selection of parts if you plan to go b20vtec. Remember the golden rule when it comes to Hondas "cheap, fast , and reliable.... PICK 2"

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Horseofcourse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A rebuild is about 500 tops. and you will have a brand new motor that will be pushing 185hp if tuned correctly.

B20 lower hp for higher fuel consumption. Minimal Compatability with other B-series engine in terms of parts and bolt ons. Plus you dont know the quality of it anyway. 90% of "jdm" motors have more than the 40k they claim. and they dont work as well when they have a vtec head put on them. I know from experience. i have built 2 ls vtecs and a B20 vtec. i know what works and what does not.

Take my Advice, Save the money, Keep the LS trans for gas mileage. You will be happy with your ls vtec. Or you could just Rebuild your LS and go turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>



You have no clue what your talking about!! B20B and Z are the same as B18A and B Different bore. In fact anything you buy for an LS will supercede to B20 aside a few parts like pistons. If you have a LS that is giving you trouble and it fails for whatever reason, you get online at HMO and see how much a b18 longblock costs VS. a b20b longblock.. you stupid if you don't but the b20. I hate people give out false info.