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Old May 20, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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So I've suffered from the subframe tear out problem.

I bought the car with what a rear sway bar that looks to be a 22ish bar. it came with a ghetto subframe brace, and I didn't know the problems with the civic subframes. Well I do now.

So as it looks, the top bolt tore out and the lower is fine. So, wtf do I do here? I've heard of getting a new subframe welded on, and also it being repaired. I have since disconnected the rear sway bar.

The ghetto subframe brace that the car came with has the sway bar bracket mounted to the subframe brace away from the subframe, so that is what's bent out in this photo.



I obviously plan on getting something like the ASR brace once I have things repaired, could I get away with just putting the ASR bracing on since it was only the top with the spacer pieces in there?

I haven't been able to find much else so sorry in advance. Not much of a honda guy, this is my first.
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Old May 20, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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fix it right kid it could be dangerous
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Old May 20, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by robfrmny21 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">fix it right kid it could be dangerous</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old May 20, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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ok, so is the only fix to cut out the entire subframe, then weld on another?
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Old May 20, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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those SRR braces always did look flimsy to me..
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Old May 20, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dangthemang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those SRR braces always did look flimsy to me..</TD></TR></TABLE>

When you're using a 22mm swaybar with a brace that's designed for a geometrically-different 19mm swaybar ............ then yeah, they're flimsy.
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Old May 20, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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so those braces are fine with the SRR 19mm swaybars?
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Old May 20, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turnsignalandy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so those braces are fine with the SRR 19mm swaybars?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The SRR bar is an odd bar, geometrically speaking. It has no bends backwards, but has extra long endlinks that push it back behind the LCA and then down to connect.

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Old May 20, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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so is it a good design? Would it make a big difference over a 13mm si rear swaybar?
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Old May 20, 2008 | 08:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turnsignalandy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so is it a good design? Would it make a big difference over a 13mm si rear swaybar?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes.
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Old May 20, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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would it mess up the balance of the car with a stock ex front swaybar??
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Old May 20, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turnsignalandy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would it mess up the balance of the car with a stock ex front swaybar??</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't understand what you're asking ..... ?

Yes, it will change the balance. If you know how to drive your car well, then it'll be a welcome change.
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Old May 20, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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ok, so is the only fix to cut out the entire subframe, then weld on another?
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Old May 20, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by seowitz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
ok, so is the only fix to cut out the entire subframe, then weld on another? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep.
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Old May 20, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by seowitz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
ok, so is the only fix to cut out the entire subframe, then weld on another? </TD></TR></TABLE>
thats the right way to do it
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Old May 20, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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Have them reinforce the crap out of it.

Progress 24mm adjustable rear sway going on 4 years street driving, no problems. Costs and weighs less than all the competitors, and has been out longer as well.
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Old May 21, 2008 | 02:56 AM
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that is the MFactory brace not SRR
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