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Old May 16, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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stats: 1988 civic hatchback 1.5 5 speed.

i bought this car about a week ago and im just going through it fixing the things that the previous owner hacked. When i got it the dash lights didnt work so i pull off the bezel around the instrument cluster and i notice that the dimmer switch isnt even pluged in. It also has a connector on one of the wires going to an aftermarket tach. Im guess that is for the light. Anyway i plug it in and the lights work now. When i go to start the car it acts like it isnt getting a very good connection. I have to turn it over a couple of times to get it to actually crank. Anyone heard or had this problem? I never had this problem before i plug the dimmer switch back in.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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ok so i go out tonight and try to start it. starts up fine first time. i kill it and try again. I hear a click noise coming from under the hood. Sounds like a bad starter. You turn the key over a couple of times and it starts sometimes. Sometimes not. Anyway to check to see if it is actually the starter??
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Old May 16, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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sounds liek a sbad starter.
a bad starter that it easyto fix cheaply - most likely it's worn out contacts that are very easyu to replace once it 's out of the car. There is a couple of sellers on eBay selling starter repair kits. The cheaper one should work for you, but if you want, you can buy the one for $25, it has some extra parts (like a plunger) to replace while you're there.

Next time it doesn't start, you can tap the starter with some metal object and see if it helps.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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thanks i will look into getting a starter
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Old May 16, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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don't throw you old one away - most likely it's a cheap fix, as I said.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 08:17 AM
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i changed out the starter this morning with a new one from autozone. Still the same deal. Turn the key over and just a click. i dont know where to go now.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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maybe main relay?

do not go buy a new one, but maybe borrow a replacement one. or first, try banging (hard) on your dash in the area of the coin tray - on the left - and see if it temporarily solves the problem. main relay is located under the dash in that area, and provides power to ecu, fuel pump (and i don't remember - but maybe starter circuit too?). anyway, banging on it is cheap and often helps temporarily.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 08:39 AM
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Another big thing - first of all - check all the grounds - if they have a good connection (transmission one, valve cover one and ESPECIALLY thermostat housing)
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Old May 17, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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i'll go check this stuff out
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Old May 17, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nikitad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe main relay?

do not go buy a new one, but maybe borrow a replacement one. or first, try banging (hard) on your dash in the area of the coin tray - on the left - and see if it temporarily solves the problem. main relay is located under the dash in that area, and provides power to ecu, fuel pump (and i don't remember - but maybe starter circuit too?). anyway, banging on it is cheap and often helps temporarily.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If it where a main relay, it would crank fine. It just wouldn't start.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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yeah the fuel pump primes, cel works.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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went out and cleaned up all the grounds and contact points. Helped alittle but still not starting everytime. When i turn the key over i can hear the fuel pump prime, the main relay click, all the dash lights come on and i turn it over and it clicks. whoever had the car before me did a number on all the wires under the dash. They also took out the clutch starting switch cause it will start w/o the pedal pushed in. Im going to see if it will start with just a wire from the battery to starter. i dont really know where to look now though
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Old May 17, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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ran a wire from starter to battery. started right up. somewhere between the key and starter connection its messing up.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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no clutch switch - it's because it's an 88, they are weird like that.

Congrats on narrowing down the problem.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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is there any way to tell if the starter relay is bad? other than buying a new one. i dont know if it is though. cause sometimes it will start if you turn the key over enough times. Sometimes it also turns over just alittle and then loses it.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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Have you checked for continuity between the starter and the ignition?
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by andrewsmith85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there any way to tell if the starter relay is bad? other than buying a new one. i dont know if it is though. cause sometimes it will start if you turn the key over enough times. Sometimes it also turns over just alittle and then loses it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Im having the same issue,all the black/wht wires have continuity but from the back of the fusebox to the stater i loose the start signal somewhere?
Also Where is the starter relay?
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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mine was the clutch switch bad... switch &gt; me
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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this was solved long ago. bad starter relay
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