well i put my bandit and vfr up for sale and i had 2 guys come at the same time tonight and one bought the vfr and the other bought the bandit so i had a lucky night so now that i freed up some cash ive been wanting a new, light 600 that i can have fun in the twisties with and ive narrowed it down to the 675 and 600rr. i missed my f4i so much that i cant wait to get to a lighter bike again

my experiance with hondas is mainly vfrs but ive ridden two 07 600rrs and havent had one complaint. now all i here is good things about the daytona, it looks great, not everyone on the block has one, but theres only one triumph dealer so im not really thrilled. i do all my maintenance anyway but for a piece of mind i like knowing the dealer is nearby and stocked with parts. theres atleast 3 honda dealers all in a 30 minute range, so thats a good thing.

i know 'graphite accord' threw the code on his 675 and im wondering if thats normal for triumph or just bad luck. i know from owning so many hondas and suzukis ive never had a problem. anyone thats ridden both or has a decent opinion is much appreciated. thanks

 

buy the honda.

Maintenance on the daytona is every 6k miles..so they are fewer.

What specifically would you like to know abut the triumph? I wouldn't buy a new one, a redesign is soon, and your worth is going to drop QUICK when the new setup is out.

then again...same with the honda. I would stir, and wait for an '09 honda.

I think the best daytona will be out in 2010...in '09 they have rumored an R model, ohlins and brembros...which I will buy.

why not consider the 848?

 

the 848 is out of my price range. im looking at used 675s and 600rrs and ive found an 06 grey 675 reasonably priced but i would prefer red or black.

is there a big difference between the 06 and 07 675 models? and are you sure about 6k mile services? that seems like a very short span. as long as the valve adjustment schedule isnt that bad i can deal with 6k services, as ill be doing it.

 

Valves are at 12k.

have you sat on a daytona?

I would look into '07 +...majority will have warrantee left...(2year)

 

Both bikes are going to have a way more aggresive riding position than you
are use to, looks like your previous bikes were more sport tour.
Get the honda way less to maintain, easy to find parts and are still one
of the best 600s available.

 

for once, I agree with Graphite.

Any European homoligation bike will be high in maintenance. Aprilia, Ducati, Triumph, MV Agusta, Moto Guzzi, BMW, KTM.......pretty much anything put out by Europeans are costly and maintenance heavy, some more than others obviously. The parts are ALWAYS expensive. If you want a full exhaust system, plan on spending AT LEAST $2k after exhaust, intake mods and computer upgrade. They tend to not be the most reliable machines on earth (BMW aside) because they just do not have the overwhelming R&D department and endless bank accounts to design a SUPER RELIABLE bike. Therefore, they mainly focus on the performance aspect of things and not so much on reliability, hence the stringent maintenance intervals. You are generally buying the status or performance when you go European, be it Italian, Bavarian or from the UK.

The thing that you have to look at when purchasing a new bike is, are you willing to fork out money for overpriced components just to have something different? Do you REALLY need the added performance that some to most European bikes can offer? Or can you live with the rediculously reliable Honda and have high end performance without being on the extreme top of the performance envelope? Can you sacrafice some of the performance for a little piece of mind that KNOWING that the chances of your bike breaking down, because you are a couple miles late on your tune up, that your bike is not going to break down or have performance issues?

Not saying that all Eruopean bikes are like this, but reliability of such bikes has been known to be an issue. For instance, on my Ducati, I have to change timing belts regularly and I have to re-shim the valve springs every 6k miles. They also call for oil changes every 2k miles due to the oil consuming nature of the Desmodromic engine. Are you willing to take it that far for the sake of performance that you will likely never use?

These are the things that you have to concern yourself with.

I say go for the Honda for practicalities sake and for pocketbook's sake. You can mod the bike to your liking without breaking the bank. It is not hard to make the bike your own while having that extra piece of mind. Think practical. Will you be commuting with the bike? How many miles will you be ptting on the bike regularly? Will the bike be able to fit into my regular use of it?

I could go on for days, ultimately it is your choice.

 

Get whatever you like best, they are both great bikes. Personally i like power and torque, and the 675 delivers more down low then the 600RR, its gonna be nicer from stop light to stop light. But the 600rr isnt slow by any means.

Personally, id be looking for a used liter bike, an 05+ R1 or 06/07 zx10r. Any of the big four make a kickass bike and only weight maybe 20 pounds more then the 600rr.

 

my vote goes to the honda.....cause i own one ...... i like the 675 but like you said about parts.....you would be out of a bike for a min if parts have to be ordered... aftermarket parts are also easier and cheaper than the daytona.... don't get me wrong the 675 is a nice bike...i would own one too if parts wouldn't be so hard to get for me...nearest daytona dealer is like 40 min away from me..

its all preference.......GL!

 

i considered the 1000rr but i really dont need that much power, and the extra 30-40 lbs. as much as i like the daytona im gonna get the 600rr. i do alot of miles and its not gonna work with the 675. thanks for all the opinions

 

do you guys think 7k is reasonable for a black 07 600rr with 1k miles and a two bros pipe? nada is 7600.

 

that sounds like a really good price.

 

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here in cali you can get an 07 or maybe 08 near mid 7ish otd..at least thats what ive seen..plus the market sux *** right now so if you go to a dealer then you got it! plus you have cash too im assuming.... GL

 

in SC the dealer near me has an 06 f4i for 7,400 and 07 giixer 600 for 7,500 new from last couple years..

Im thinking about getting a 600 in a few years maybe. I know my friends ZX-6r is alot easier to flick into a corner then my RC51..RC is more fun though! lol

 

I JUST saw a white Triumph parked outside the mall. Needless to say, if I was wearing panties, they would've been droppin'.

 

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My 08 1000rr is I believe 3 lbs heavier than my 04 ZX6R was. Weight is not even a worry on the new CBR 1K.

 

I wouldn't pay over 5k for a japanese bike, they aren't worth it.

Anyways, I would like to know, of the 16 people that voted, whom have ridden both bikes? I'm going to guess, but I'd say far less than half.

if you have to make a choice between a 600RR, or a daytona, Then buy the 600RR. The two bikes aren't comparable, and aren't in the same league. A daytona is going to be the best riders bike, the 600RR is going to be the best starbucks hardparkin cruising the streets, but also want to hit the track bike.

The only 4 cylinder I'd own now would be in a car...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DirtySol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for once, I agree with Graphite.

Any European homoligation bike will be high in maintenance. Aprilia, Ducati, Triumph, MV Agusta, Moto Guzzi, BMW, KTM.......pretty much anything put out by Europeans are costly and maintenance heavy, some more than others obviously. The parts are ALWAYS expensive. If you want a full exhaust system, plan on spending AT LEAST $2k after exhaust, intake mods and computer upgrade. They tend to not be the most reliable machines on earth (BMW aside) because they just do not have the overwhelming R&D department and endless bank accounts to design a SUPER RELIABLE bike. Therefore, they mainly focus on the performance aspect of things and not so much on reliability, hence the stringent maintenance intervals. You are generally buying the status or performance when you go European, be it Italian, Bavarian or from the UK.

The thing that you have to look at when purchasing a new bike is, are you willing to fork out money for overpriced components just to have something different? Do you REALLY need the added performance that some to most European bikes can offer? Or can you live with the rediculously reliable Honda and have high end performance without being on the extreme top of the performance envelope? Can you sacrafice some of the performance for a little piece of mind that KNOWING that the chances of your bike breaking down, because you are a couple miles late on your tune up, that your bike is not going to break down or have performance issues?

Not saying that all Eruopean bikes are like this, but reliability of such bikes has been known to be an issue. For instance, on my Ducati, I have to change timing belts regularly and I have to re-shim the valve springs every 6k miles. They also call for oil changes every 2k miles due to the oil consuming nature of the Desmodromic engine. Are you willing to take it that far for the sake of performance that you will likely never use?

These are the things that you have to concern yourself with.

I say go for the Honda for practicalities sake and for pocketbook's sake. You can mod the bike to your liking without breaking the bank. It is not hard to make the bike your own while having that extra piece of mind. Think practical. Will you be commuting with the bike? How many miles will you be ptting on the bike regularly? Will the bike be able to fit into my regular use of it?

I could go on for days, ultimately it is your choice. </TD></TR></TABLE>


don't listen to this post, He doesn't have a clue about the Daytona. Just because his poor mans ducati needs a timing belt every time he blinks doesn't mean the daytona isn't reliable. It's very much a great bike to put mileage on, and parts prices, along with labor isn't bad at all on the daytona. but, I do my own maintenance, and buy my own oil, and do all of my own labor.

My daytona doesn't burn oil, at all.

 

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what does this have anything to do with this post. You completely missed the point of this topic.

 

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don't listen to this post, He doesn't have a clue about the Daytona. Just because his poor mans ducati needs a timing belt every time he blinks doesn't mean the daytona isn't reliable. It's very much a great bike to put mileage on, and parts prices, along with labor isn't bad at all on the daytona. but, I do my own maintenance, and buy my own oil, and do all of my own labor.

My daytona doesn't burn oil, at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh my freaking hell, you really are a c*cksucker! This is not a "who's ***** is bigger" contest. You are clearly tryng to compensate for your many inadequacies......including your lack of a human personality......or sensability. Get the hell off of your high horse......nobody cares.

The bike I have is purely my choice. It would be a waste for me to have a superbike class motorcycle. I chose a very sensible bike for my riding habits. I commute regularly and I take long trips from time to time. I Sport Touring bike is perfect for what I use it for. It handles well and it does not kill my *** on long trips and it is friendly to my body. I had (and just recently got rid of) a 748s rack bike and a 916 before that......along with a few GSX-R's. I have what I like.

The Ducati is FAR from what you make it out to be. I have to hange the belts every 12,000mi or every two years (whichever is first) and the Desmodromic engines (along with almost every V-twin in history) has small oil consumption traits.

Like I said before, European motorcycles require a little more maintenance than their Japanese counterparts, and they often tend to not be as reliable. Parts and performance upgrades are multiples more expensive sometimes and are hard to attain and if it does break, their is a longer down time.

European is a choice, that many choose to make. When they make that choice, they accept the extra time and money involved sometimes.

 

R6 &gt; everything else.

 

the local dealer has the 08 600rr for 8700 and you can get 07 leftover 1000rrs for 9k. for 300 more its tempting but in all honesty im a minimalist and i love light bikes, so im leaning towards the 600. also like i said i dont need liter bike power out in the twisties. im going to the dealer tommorrow, i have my eye on the red/black 08 600rr or the silver one





or this...

 

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I have ridden both of the bikes, and own an '07 600rr.

BTW, I rode the Daytona before I bought the Honda if that says anything.

 

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if you have to make a choice between a 600RR, or a daytona, Then buy the 600RR. The two bikes aren't comparable, and aren't in the same league. A daytona is going to be the best riders bike, the 600RR is going to be the best starbucks hardparkin cruising the streets, but also want to hit the track bike. </TD></TR></TABLE>



...anyways....

either bike is great and there's a 99% chance you will NEVER use the full potential of either. Pit one bike versus the other and it will be a rider race stock for stock or mod for mod.

So go with the one thats easier to find parts for. Possibly easier to work on. Cheaper for insurance (I'd bet, but it depends) and less "specialized".

Which would that be again? Oh yea, a japanese bike.

 

atually Honda is known to be one of the larges PITA bikes to adjust valves on, just because everything has to come apart

I still say Honda, just for sheer practicality and peace of mind. The 675 is a known performer, but the 07+ 600rr's are just as known for performance They are known to be one of the most potent 600cc bikes out there.......which is why they are almost 1k more than every other 600

I say go with this one, looks SEXY!!!

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The two bikes aren't comparable, and aren't in the same league. A daytona is going to be the best riders bike, the 600RR is going to be the best starbucks hardparkin cruising the streets, but also want to hit the track bike.
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I'm still waiting to see proof that you ride any bike the way it's meant to be ridden.

Get rid of those strips yet?