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Old May 11, 2008 | 11:35 PM
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Default Toyo R1R vs. Falken Azenis Photo Comparison

So the Azenis RT615's were not cutting it with consistent laps during 20 min sessions so i decided to try something new and go with the Toyo R1R's. I know there are a couple of other photo comparisons but not many floating around, so i decided to snap some to help you guys out. I have not yet tested these out yet but ill be on the track on the 31st at Buttonwillow, so stay tuned for some reviews against on the RT615's.

Toyo R1R 195/50/15 on a 15x7 Enkei RPF1 (Left)
Falken Azenis RT615 205/50/15 on a 15x6.5 Konig Renegade (Right)
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Toyo R1R 195/50/15 on a 15x7 Enkei RPF1 (Far)
Falken Azenis RT615 205/50/15 on a 15x6.5 Konig Renegade (Close)
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Old May 12, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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they got nothing on my neovas
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Old May 12, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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what's the treadwear on these?are the comparable in grip to the Azenis?i got a coupon for the R1Rs or R888,and i need some new track tires anyway.not sure if i want to step up to the shorter lifespan of the R888s.
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Old May 12, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Grip wise i am not sure, i havnt tested them yet. I have heard they are supposed to be stickier then Azenis and are more consistent and not get as greasy during 20 mins sessions. Toyo R1R's are 140 tread wear but depending on each company tread wear #'s always vary. I got them for a great deal, so why not try them?
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Old May 13, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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damn those do look beefy as hell dude. who is that nub that's talkin bout neovas?
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Old May 13, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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The nub thats gonna jack yo wheels!!!! MUAHAHHAHAHA
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Old May 14, 2008 | 04:04 AM
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hahaha you are right slow1.6
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Old May 14, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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so the wheel is 0.5 inches wider (higher when flat on the ground like in the pic)

it would have been great on the same size wheels
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Old May 15, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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Having the tires on two different size wheels doesnt allow us to see a fair comparison.

Here's a pic of 15x7 compared to a 15x5.5, both with 205/50 Ra-1s.
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The wider wheel sits taller, even with identical tires.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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so did u try it the r1r out yet???
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 08:39 AM
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I purchased a set of the R1Rs as an upgrade from running Azenis RT-615s as well

I'm looking forward to try them out at the track next week. The 195 wide R1Rs are the same width (if not wider) than a 205 wide RT615. I'll try to post a pic of the comparison in here as well. (btw, the 195 R1R was mounted on a 15x6.5 wheel, and the 205 RT615 was on a 15x7 wheel......and <U>still,</U> the 195 R1R was fairly wide in comparison!)

In addition, the R1Rs compound is noticeably a lot softer & stickier just from touch alone! You can stick your finger nail in it just like an R-Comp
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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From my last track event, i think the R1R's held up to slightly more heat for about another session then the 615's did. R1R's sidewalls are noticeably weaker then the Azenis RT615's. Im giving them another try this weekend at cali speedway.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .:Made in OC:. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">R1R's sidewalls are noticeably weaker then the Azenis RT615's. </TD></TR></TABLE>


I was worried about the possible weaker sidewalls. Just curious...what cold PSI did you have the tires set at? I want get a good baseline before I start shredding these tires on the track.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 12:27 AM
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if i'm correct and we run the same temps, it should be around 30 psi cold front and 32 psi cold rear. he may have ran lower
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 05:31 AM
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Keep us updated
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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Just a reference for those who believe the pic above is an unfair comparison....

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R1R is mounted on a 15x6.5 Spoon SW388 wheel

Azenis is mounted on a 15x7 Kosei K1 wheel.

R1R looks to have the same, if not a slightly wider contact patch, despite being mounted on a 6.5" wide wheel
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .:Made in OC:. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From my last track event, i think the R1R's held up to slightly more heat for about another session then the 615's did. R1R's sidewalls are noticeably weaker then the Azenis RT615's. Im giving them another try this weekend at cali speedway.</TD></TR></TABLE>


so how did today go?
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 11:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clem kevin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


so how did today go?</TD></TR></TABLE>

We'll find out tomorrow.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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Ok, so im back from Time attack. The tires worked out great! I am very happy with them. I finally found the right psi they work great at. My last track day they were under pressure. The tires got me my 1st place win in the Street FWD class.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .:Made in OC:. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok, so im back from Time attack. The tires worked out great! I am very happy with them. I finally found the right psi they work great at. My last track day they were under pressure. The tires got me my 1st place win in the Street FWD class. </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats great man, im really glad to hear that

next socal time attack youll be up against my boss in my car!
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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he forgot to mention I was suppose to win jk charles
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NTCustoms &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he forgot to mention I was suppose to win jk charles</TD></TR></TABLE>

GET OVER IT. You failed to pass tech for street class. There is no point telling everyone you "would have" won. FAIL Henry Ngooyen. Here, have a beer.
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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nevaR! this will haunt you for life. but i will gladly accept that beer
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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what happened Henry?
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