My buddy just picked up a 01 s2k and the first thing he did was take off the intake box cover so just the filter is exposed, he did this so the car would "sound better" Is this hurting performance any since its not getting ram air any more just hot air from the engine bay.


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Yes. Its hurting the performance of the car.

 

Honda put it on for a reason

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlammedDC2teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes. Its hurting the performance of the car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep. Someone on another forum had one of the best comments about this intake issue:

In terms of performance:
-2.....Removing top of intake cover
-1.....The "bling blang" ARC intake system
0......Stock airbox
+1.....Any other aftermarket solution

 

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Yep. Someone on another forum had one of the best comments about this intake issue:

In terms of performance:
-2.....Removing top of intake cover
-1.....The "bling blang" ARC intake system
0......Stock airbox
+1.....Any other aftermarket solution</TD></TR></TABLE> Ive seen worse intakes then just removing the air box cover. Some dude thats my friend on myspace made his intake out of two AEM intakes and has two filters on it and a big horn coming out the front bumper. Ill try to find some pics of it

 

thx for the quick responses, I told him that and he didnt care just that it "sounded cool". But after seeing this im sure he'll put it back on

 

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LOL @ your friend.

I love people who think they know all the tricks to make horsepower out of nothing

Like, oh SNapS if you take off the stock exhaust and cat and run OPEN HEDER youz be free-flowing dawg. dats like 10 whp right der.

 

has anyone ever tried an air funnel or something like that? where it would redirect flow to the intake? kinda like the ARC box but without heatsoak ?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dagle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">has anyone ever tried an air funnel or something like that? where it would redirect flow to the intake? kinda like the ARC box but without heatsoak ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

There are multiple companies out there (replicas and the real deal) that have snorkel type intakes or Cold Air Intakes that do the exact thing you're describing.

Search for "snorkel". Is that what you're looking for? They're apparently pretty functional, although most of the genuine ones require you to cut/notch the bottom of your hood.

 

I'm the guy that did the "airbox mod". I will admit I got no performance out of taking off the top. The airbox quites down the motor a little bit, hence the chambers in the box. By removing the top, the motor sounds deeper at 50%+ throttle. Bolt-ons are pointless on this car. A couple hundred for a few HP isn't worth it to me. This will give it a tight sound while I save for a turbo. But performance wasn't gained or lost. Stickers are another story... I've got one that says MIVEC and I think thats worth 20hp!! lol

 

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hmmmm....ftw

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TsujenDB1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My buddy just picked up a 01 s2k and the first thing he did was take off the intake box cover so just the filter is exposed, he did this so the car would "sound better" Is this hurting performance any since its not getting ram air any more just hot air from the engine bay.


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you should tell him to take out the filter and take his hood off and ride around, that'll get him mad hoorz powa yoO

 

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Yep. Someone on another forum had one of the best comments about this intake issue:

In terms of performance:
-2.....Removing top of intake cover
-1.....The "bling blang" ARC intake system
0......Stock airbox
+1.....Any other aftermarket solution</TD></TR></TABLE>


Still waiting for a dyno that proves the ARC loses power, versus just theories.

 

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Still waiting for a dyno that proves the ARC loses power, versus just theories. </TD></TR></TABLE>

lemme find it...


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Splatter85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm the guy that did the "airbox mod". I will admit I got no performance out of taking off the top.

Bolt-ons are pointless on this car. A couple hundred for a few HP isn't worth it to me. </TD></TR></TABLE>

it depends on what mods you get for bolt ons... yes there are some exhausts that will net you ~12 whp... thats a decent gain... ill tell you what im running when i dyno my car this summer...

 

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Still waiting for a dyno that proves the ARC loses power, versus just theories. </TD></TR></TABLE>

It doesn't loose power initially, and it probably won't show up on a normal dyno day run 1-3 quick runs. However, the intake setup itself causes heat soak, which in turn leads to loss of power in the long run.

 

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Still waiting for a dyno that proves the ARC loses power, versus just theories. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You're kidding, right?

You realize that the ARC does make power...until heat soak becomes a factor...which is almost immediately when driving anywhere outside. Dyno's are taken in ideal conditions, and most Dyno's I have seen with an ARC intake have the hood popped open to prevent heat soak. The heat soak on those are awful. That is the truth whether you want to believe it or not.

 

No one can argue with a dyno! "Just for kicks, we decided to see what kind of power the Honda would make if we removed the cover for the filter, exposing the Comptech foam filter. By opening up the orifice more than what the factory airbox can provide, we figured we'd be able to increase the engine's air intake. With the exhaust and the filter opened up, the engine produced 205.9 hp (vs 203.2) and 137.9 lb-ft of torque."

http://www.importtuner.com/pow....html

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Splatter85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No one can argue with a dyno! "Just for kicks, we decided to see what kind of power the Honda would make if we removed the cover for the filter, exposing the Comptech foam filter. By opening up the orifice more than what the factory airbox can provide, we figured we'd be able to increase the engine's air intake. With the exhaust and the filter opened up, the engine produced 205.9 hp (vs 203.2) and 137.9 lb-ft of torque."

http://www.importtuner.com/pow....html </TD></TR></TABLE> Did you have the hood open or closed? If it was closed was the hood hot?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Splatter85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No one can argue with a dyno! "Just for kicks, we decided to see what kind of power the Honda would make if we removed the cover for the filter, exposing the Comptech foam filter. By opening up the orifice more than what the factory airbox can provide, we figured we'd be able to increase the engine's air intake. With the exhaust and the filter opened up, the engine produced 205.9 hp (vs 203.2) and 137.9 lb-ft of torque."

http://www.importtuner.com/pow....html </TD></TR></TABLE>

We'll obviously you make more power...there is more airflow, but those dyno numbers mean nothing if your not able to achieve the same results while driving. Which you're not. This is why there are Drag cars, and there are Dyno Queens. You can't run an open box while driving. There is a substancial amount of heatsoak. This is why the ARC intake fails.

Engineering FTW