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Helping friend. Car wont start. Good Spark, Fuel, Grounds, Battery NO CEL HELP!!

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Old May 8, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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Default Helping friend. Car wont start. Good Spark, Fuel, Grounds, Battery NO CEL HELP!!

Im trying to help my friend get her car moving.
Recap - Car over heated, radiator (problem) was replaced. Car turned on drove around etc. Parked the car, now care doesnt start.


1. Good Spark
2. Fuel coming upto fuel filter and rail.
Good fuel
3. All grounds attached.
Good Ground.
4. Good battery.
5. No Cel
6. Jumped ECT and thats ok
7. Main Relay is clicking
8. Firing order is correct


Here is what it does.
It starts to crank over when you turn the key at about the 3rd turn over it almost turns on, it makes a "puttering" sound and almost kicks on.



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Old May 9, 2008 | 12:25 AM
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suggestions?
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Old May 9, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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Is your timing on point?
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Old May 9, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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Default Re: Helping friend. Car wont start. Good Spark, Fuel, Grounds, Battery NO CEL HELP!! (PinkMaggit)

what have you done to verify "good spark" ?
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Old May 9, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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Default Re: Helping friend. Car wont start. Good Spark, Fuel, Grounds, Battery NO CEL HELP!! (Bjorn20)


the spark seems really strong on all 4 wires.

It jumps like an inch from a screwdriver to a ground.


the plugs now are full of gas though from the cranking and not starting.
9. Checked ECU grounds on thermostat.
10. Scanned it with a Cen-tech Scanner. NO CODES, NO TROUBLE MSGS
11. Checked timing and its dead on.

Will do a compression test.

I was thinking it was the coil as well but the spark is good.


she drove it around stopped at the store. Got back in and started it and drove home. At home tried to start it and it "sputtered" and died(was rough idle).

Now it just cranks and almost starts but doesnt. on third turn over

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Old May 9, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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Default Re: Helping friend. Car wont start. Good Spark, Fuel, Grounds, Battery NO CEL HELP!! (PinkMaggit)

What vehicle is this btw?

Yea thats sort of what i was getting at... most just check the plug wires and check those instead of checking the plugs themselves.

so lets get this straight...

It has spark all the way through
It has fuel (obviosly from the plugs being gas soaked)
Havent verified compression, I would pull a plug out and put your hand over the cylinder, crank it over and feel if its "sucking".

Make sure the intake isnt all plugged up with a foreign object of some sort.

So if you have fuel, spark and timing, the only thing left preventing it from firing is compression. I doubt it an ecu issue since the computer controls part of the fuel system. So ya go from there, cross your fingers and hope for the best.
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Old May 10, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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sounds like your firing order is incorrect

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