All Motor / Naturally Aspirated No power adders

fresh build. no oil pressure

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 2, 2008 | 05:43 AM
  #1  
90Rexx's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,329
Likes: 0
From: New England
Default fresh build. no oil pressure

ok i just finished putting together my b18 and am cranking with no ecu plugged in to prime the oil pump. Getting no pressure. cranked 4 times at 10 second intervals. using a autometer mechanical pressure guage. what is the recommended procedure for priming the pump.

heres the facts.
no oil pressure.
not getting any oil into the line to the pressure guage.
very small amounts of oil are present in the cylinder head when i take off the oil cap. ( i had everything cleaned with mineral spirits beforehand)
oil restrictor in block is there
clearances are in spec everything is torqued to spec
oil pickup is clean and brand new
brand new pickup gasket
yes i put oil in lol.
oil pump is from a gsr with low miles.

i hope im just not following the procedure properly....someone chime in please
Reply
Old May 2, 2008 | 06:47 AM
  #2  
Turbowa's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,326
Likes: 2
From: Casa Grande, AZ
Default Re: fresh build. no oil pressure (90Rexx)

Did you prime the oil pump before installing it on the engine?
Reply
Old May 2, 2008 | 08:46 AM
  #3  
90Rexx's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,329
Likes: 0
From: New England
Default Re: fresh build. no oil pressure (Turbowa)

errrm....no....wasnt aware it needed to be primed out of the car? how would you go about doing that?

its too late to do it now anyways though.
Reply
Old May 2, 2008 | 12:13 PM
  #4  
Turbowa's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,326
Likes: 2
From: Casa Grande, AZ
Default Re: fresh build. no oil pressure (90Rexx)

You can pack it with either white lith. grease, vasaline, or anything like that.
Reply
Old May 2, 2008 | 12:22 PM
  #5  
hybrid_KJ's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 590
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, FL, USA
Default Re: fresh build. no oil pressure (90Rexx)

Just start the engine. If you have no pressure in 5 seconds then you have a problem.
Reply
Old May 2, 2008 | 02:37 PM
  #6  
JakeSpec's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 944
Likes: 0
From: Covina, CA
Default Re: fresh build. no oil pressure (90Rexx)

keep bumping it sometimes it take a minute or so. dont start it lol
Reply
Old May 2, 2008 | 02:47 PM
  #7  
JakeSpec's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 944
Likes: 0
From: Covina, CA
Default Re: fresh build. no oil pressure (IntegraType-R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you are a [freak]en moron.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LoL that was kinda harsh! dont you think?
Reply
Old May 2, 2008 | 04:42 PM
  #8  
egb18c5's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,117
Likes: 0
From: NY
Default Re: fresh build. no oil pressure (JakeSpec)

are you sure that everything is hooked up correctly? if it is, i would say to prime it. even though i never had to do that when ever i had to start up a freshly built motor
Reply
Old May 2, 2008 | 05:23 PM
  #9  
coneheadsracing's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,385
Likes: 0
From: Right Here, MI, world
Default Re: fresh build. no oil pressure (egb18c5)

I say start it too..... I've never primed it or waited for pressure to build, i always leave the valve cover off and dump a quart up there too though. Anyways, cranking it over 20 times in intervals will do its damage too.
Reply
Old May 2, 2008 | 08:05 PM
  #10  
IntegraType-R's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,725
Likes: 0
From: Baton rouge, LA, USA
Default Re: fresh build. no oil pressure (coneheadsracing)

My post was deleted by someone who's admin happy.. Dont listen to the kid who stated start your motor and let it run if u dont have oil pressure in 5 seconds you got a problem..

I'm sorry i thought i'd point out this kid is a moron for telling him to do so.. i didn't know i could do that.. thx.
Reply
Old May 2, 2008 | 08:07 PM
  #11  
IntegraType-R's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,725
Likes: 0
From: Baton rouge, LA, USA
Default Re: fresh build. no oil pressure (JakeSpec)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JakeSpec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

LoL that was kinda harsh! dont you think? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Hell no , you wanna have this same dude in a week post up a thread " No oil pressure, bearsing are shot, crank is scored up" because he listen to some assclown..
If your not getting pressure when priming your oil via cranking over.. Then something is wrong, excessively cranking your over will not help the situation.
Reply
Old May 2, 2008 | 08:29 PM
  #12  
mar778c's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,128
Likes: 3
From: Near Philly, USA
Default Re: fresh build. no oil pressure (IntegraType-R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If your not getting pressure when priming your oil via cranking over.. Then something is wrong, excessively cranking your over will not help the situation.</TD></TR></TABLE>

X2

Letting it run 5 secs with no oil pressure can ruin the bearings and the crank.
Reply
Old May 2, 2008 | 08:31 PM
  #13  
hybrid_KJ's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 590
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, FL, USA
Default Re: fresh build. no oil pressure (IntegraType-R)

You will do more damage cranking a motor for five minutes trying to build pressure. I'm not a kid and I've built motors for a living in the past. If you assemble the motor correctly and used a good assembly lube you are better off just starting it up. On every build I've done this way oil presser was there instantly.
Reply
Old May 2, 2008 | 09:18 PM
  #14  
IntegraType-R's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,725
Likes: 0
From: Baton rouge, LA, USA
Default Re: fresh build. no oil pressure (hybrid_KJ)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybrid_KJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You will do more damage cranking a motor for five minutes trying to build pressure. I'm not a kid and I've built motors for a living in the past. If you assemble the motor correctly and used a good assembly lube you are better off just starting it up. On every build I've done this way oil presser was there instantly. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Its pretty damn obviously the op does NOT know what he's doing, therefore , just telling him to crank over his newly built motor w/o priming it is..
a) stupid.. as ****.
Reply
Old May 3, 2008 | 02:35 PM
  #15  
JakeSpec's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 944
Likes: 0
From: Covina, CA
Default Re: fresh build. no oil pressure (coneheadsracing)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coneheadsracing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I say start it too..... I've never primed it or waited for pressure to build, i always leave the valve cover off and dump a quart up there too though. Anyways, cranking it over 20 times in intervals will do its damage too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so your basically same bumping will damamge as much as starting it right?


you must have some knocky first start motors if you never build pressure or prime them. and also dumping a qt in it ain gonna give the bearings lubrication
Reply
Old May 3, 2008 | 06:16 PM
  #16  
90Rexx's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,329
Likes: 0
From: New England
Default Re: fresh build. no oil pressure (90Rexx)

errrm...ok to everyone who says im an idiot or whatever u can all go [freak] urselves and post in a different forum where they think ur cool, cuz no one here does.

anyways....so i cranked it again today and after about 15 seconds of cranking i got pressure. so its good to go...just weird that it took so long to get pressure. took abbout a total of 90 seconds of cranking on and off at 10-15 second intervals to get pressure. still havnt started it but presure builds nicely now while cranking and no leaks.

Reply
Old May 4, 2008 | 02:58 PM
  #17  
coneheadsracing's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,385
Likes: 0
From: Right Here, MI, world
Default Re: fresh build. no oil pressure (JakeSpec)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JakeSpec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

so your basically same bumping will damamge as much as starting it right?


you must have some knocky first start motors if you never build pressure or prime them. and also dumping a qt in it ain gonna give the bearings lubrication</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, i use assembly lube. Which takes place of the oil for that time.

I also never said that priming the motor over will cause damage. If you spend a minute of turning over the motor, even if it's not running you could still be wearing off the assembly lube and causing damage. I personaly, start mine up, and watch the oil pressure. Never had an issue, pressure always builds pretty much instantly. I have read plenty of threads on here about people saying they can't get oil pressure to build by just cranking it for long periods of time.
Reply
Old May 5, 2008 | 06:06 AM
  #18  
turbociv910's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,501
Likes: 2
From: expensive land, usa
Default Re: fresh build. no oil pressure (coneheadsracing)

pull the ecu fuse, unhook the turbo drain, turn over 5 or so times wait for oil to seep, plug it back up and start the car.

works every time
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
superspadez
Honda Accord (1990 - 2002)
9
Aug 31, 2012 01:38 PM
fr3dy_1
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
17
May 23, 2008 11:33 PM
tcontesh
Forced Induction
3
Jun 29, 2006 01:46 PM
jtracing919
Acura Integra
2
Mar 25, 2006 08:23 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:56 PM.