Can anyone offer a comparison of these two brake pads for me? My car is an STS-2 prep CRX... street tires, light weight, needs to be street-able.

Thanks.

 

i had hp+ and bobcats. i didnt like the bobcats on my old sts car or on anything i drove with them on. the initial bight is better with the hawks. the hawks last way longer too.

 

The HPS and Bobcats are both intended for street use ONLY, not for track use. Like fireant, I recommend the HP+ for a combination pad for both street and track. Click here for lowest prices.

 

I thought Bobcats were a street/autox pad?

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Carbotech™ Bobcat 1521™: The Carbotech Bobcat 1521™ is our high performance street compound that is our most successful compound. The Bobcat compound is known for its awesome release and modulation, along with unmatched rotor friendliness. Like our AX™ & XP™ line of compounds, Bobcat 1521™ is a Ceramic based friction material offering minimal rotor damage and non corrosive dust. Bobcat 1521™ offers outstanding performance, even when cold, low dusting and low noise with an excellent initial bite. This compound’s virtually perfect linear torque production provides incredible braking force without ABS intervention. Bobcat 1521™ operating range starts out at ambient and goes up to 900°F. Bobcat 1521™ is suitable for ALL street cars, perfect for your tow vehicle, police cruiser, and has won multiple SCCA Solo 2 and Prosolo National Championships. The Bobcat 1521™ compound has been found to last two-three times longer than OE pads you can purchase at a dealership or national retailer. Bobcat 1521™ compound has also been found to extend the life of your rotors 2-3 times. That’s one of the beauties of Carbotech Ceramic brake compounds. Bobcat 1521™ is NOT recommended for any track use. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Im talking about a 2,025lb car with no abs autocrossing on street tires.

 

I really like my HPS....they did fine in STS2...now that I'm in CSP...I'm basically a STS2 car with a LSD and a clutch...and they still work great :D

prolly 20k HARD miles on them of DD too. They tend to dust, but its not as bad as some.

 

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Like you quoted:

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As for autocross, I don't autocross, so I'm not sure of what requirements specific to autocross and not to tracking (e.g. fast warm-up and/or effectiveness when cold) might apply to these pads and not the more aggressive HP+. I can tell you that the HP+ does very nicely on both street and track, though. I also know that the next step up in the Carbotech line, the Panther Plus, isn't streetable (since they squeal LOUD when used on the street, at least the last set I used did).

 

The bobcats are an aggressive street pad. You you want a street/auto-x pad, then go for the AX6. So might not be a fair comparison to compare bobcats vs hawk hps.

 

Bobcats take heat decently well, but do not have the initial hard 'bite' of some of the street/autox pads. I always have to warm mine up a little bit before an autox run.

But look at it this way...you're driving an STS car on street tires with no ABS. If you lock up the front wheels completely, that means your motor is going to shut off if you don't depress the clutch. And during an autox run, that's not always an easy (or fast) thing to do.

I've had this happen a time or two in the rain, and once in the dry. So, that initial hard bite might not be a good thing, depending upon how you look at it.

Axxis Ultimates are still my favorite autox pad, but for certain cars the bobcats may be better. As far as a street pad, I don't like the bobcats for that purpose because they are noisy and dusty.

 

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Autox has more in common with a good street pad than it does a good track pad. Actually, for most autox cars you want a good cold initial bite that'll still bite by the end of the run (when the pads are hotter).

But the pads themselves will never see constant high temps, like a track pad will.