ok i am a total noob. ive been doing some reading,
i have a 91 crx with a b18c1 vtec

i would like to be able to read in real time all the info i need to tune my car
i dono if you can tune in real time but if you can that would be amazing too
i would also like to be able to make my check engine light or my brights indicator my shift light and set rpms to shift at

i dont wanna spend aton of money seeing how im a noob and i dont want to get too deep untill i am sure i can do this. im good with pc and soldering so no worries about that

i am not too sure on how to tune like air fuel mixtures and vtec engagement but would like to learn

so if anyone can help me out in anyway like a little shopping list of the best stuff
if not thanks anyways for reading this far haha


edit: ok well ive been looking around and looks like i can read realtime and burn realtime with moates ostrich 2.0 (http://www.moates.net/product_info.p...roducts_id=169) and crome ?? am i correct because that sounds too easy .. i know ill have to mod my ecu to take a chip .. but is that it????
and can i leave the ostrich hooked up all the time ? and one last ?
is crome pro worth it or should i just use crome .. or use someother prog???


Modified by fenix4o9 at 2:30 AM 4/30/2008

 

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edit: ok well ive been looking around and looks like i can read realtime and burn realtime with moates ostrich 2.0 (http://www.moates.net/product_info.p...roducts_id=169) and crome ?? am i correct because that sounds too easy .. i know ill have to mod my ecu to take a chip .. but is that it????
and can i leave the ostrich hooked up all the time ? and one last ?
is crome pro worth it or should i just use crome .. or use someother prog???
Modified by fenix4o9 at 2:30 AM 4/30/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you want to datalog and tune in real time. Then you are on the right track.

Buy the ostrich and a logger, unless the 2.0 has it built in.

Then get Crome Pro so you can datalog.

Then chip your ecu. You can get the chip kit from moates as well. Cut J12 and you are ready to go.

Go to http://www.tunewithcrome.com or forum.pgmfi.org and check out the crome forum.

 

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Thank you both soo much !!!!!!

 

also add wideband sensor and controller to your list of tuning tools

 

can u give me a little info on why and what they do?<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KENetics1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also add wideband sensor and controller to your list of tuning tools</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

wideband sensor is what measures your exhaust gas oxygen content and the controller is what converts that into your air/fuel ratio. Basically without them you can't tune a car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KENetics1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wideband sensor is what measures your exhaust gas oxygen content and the controller is what converts that into your air/fuel ratio. Basically without them you can't tune a car.</TD></TR></TABLE>thanks.. can you name a good set to pick up ? and do you think the moates ostrich 2.0 is a good choice along with crome . or is uberdata better ?


Edit: http://www.moates.net/shopping_cart.php?sort=2a

over kill?

 

I would go with crome over uberdata. Is your car already converted to obd1? Do you already have a socketed ecu? For the price ectune would be a better value. Either setup you'll need a ostrich if you want realtime datalog and tune. A neptune rtp would come out to about the same amount after software and ostrich.

As for wideband kit some popular brands are ngk, innovate, plx, fjo.....
I can get ngk and fjo wideband kits if interested.

 

yes i have a b18c1 swap in my 91 crx it is odb 1 and i bought a p28 ecu i think and the guy tunned the ecu out of my car just on what i told him i had he said he did a crx like mine and he had that saved so thats what he put in my ecu

i just want all the stuff i need lol good stuff but with cash still in the bank you know im a noob but i want to learn and i want to have the tools to learn with
what would u suggest ? if you where me? and what widebank kit is the best for the buck and ya if you sale any of this stuff like it sounds like u deal ngk and fjo i would be happy to send some cash your way and buy stuff off you its the least i can do after the help and info you gave so far

 

link to my store is in my sig. I think ngk kit is pretty good bang for buck. I could get you a nice price on hondata s300 too but I would rather suggest you get neptune rtp or ectune which I don't sell. Same features for less $$$. Checkout xenocron.com for these products.

 

neptune rtp has a ton of features and ectune looks like just software i didnt see any thing else they offered besides the ostrich kit

after i get my shopping list for this stuff all fig out ill pick up the ngk kit





Modified by fenix4o9 at 12:24 AM 5/2/2008


Modified by fenix4o9 at 12:25 AM 5/2/2008

 

ectune is just software but you have to have an ostrich to use it. They both come out to the same amount. Neptune just has the rtp unit built onto the board that's all.

 

just looked at hondata i liek the shiftlight feature lol what has the most features hondata s300 neptune rtp or ectune? and what software is the best in your eyes? also how much do u want for the hondata?

 

Neptune has MIL shiftlight.
eCtune has Mil Shiftlight that is adjustable by gear.
Hondata has Mil shiftlight
Crome has Mil shiftlight

s300 MSRP 595$

 

Ok i thnk im going with neptune rtp and the tunnerview. the last ? i have........
1.do i need the bluetooth to be able to use tunnerview?
2.if not can the tunnerview get the info wireless (via bluetooth)?
3.and i still need the ngk kit .. but does the neptune rtp come with the data cables and everything needed to install into a prechiped ecu ?

 

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eCtune has Mil Shiftlight that is adjustable by gear.
Hondata has Mil shiftlight
Crome has Mil shiftlight

s300 MSRP 595$</TD></TR></TABLE>


ECTUNE FTW
^^^^^ will replace crome someday.

 

I have eCTune and I have no tuning experience at all! Aside from playing with the software of Hondata, Chrome, Uberdata and eCTune. Anyway I can't put any of those other companies down but I found eCTune really easy to setup and the support is second to none.

 

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1.do i need the bluetooth to be able to use tunnerview?
2.if not can the tunnerview get the info wireless (via bluetooth)?
3.and i still need the ngk kit .. but does the neptune rtp come with the data cables and everything needed to install into a prechiped ecu ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

1. No.
2. The Bluetooth is for your laptop to get the info wireless.
3. Everything included, yes.