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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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hey everybody, i have a 97 ej8, right now i have power steering, but i'm starting to actually dis like it, no particular reason, but i would like to try out manual steering

for all you guys that have manual steering .. what would u say the advantage of having manual steering is? does it feel much better while driving or what?
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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imo, if you daily your car... keep the p/s

if you lap your car, keep the p/s

if you drag your car, loose the p/s...

k?

if you want to upgrade it, upgrade it to an itr rack...
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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well i definately dd it .. what would be the difference if i upgraded to an itr rack?
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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quicker steering ratio..

how much quicker.. i dunno >__>

edit: w00000000000t 1000th post!
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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yea .. i'm just lookin to change up soemthing with my car .. anymore when i drive it i don't enjoy it that much .. maybe its because it handles so well but its too slow?
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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lose the p.s and deal with sore arms
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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i dont know that its just that ive had a crx and eg hatch but neither have never been at all hard to turn. Only time i can ever say it could be easier is when im sitting still and im using 1 hand. So i say you can do without
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 12:05 AM
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I had power steering in my first hatch, and then took out the pump, and it was a pain, but got used to it, and then the next two didn't have it, but was already used to it...when i drive a car WITH p/s, I usually end up almost flipping the car because I turn wayyy too sharp haha. anyway
imo it's not bad, except (sometimes) trying to make a u-turn or park while talking on the phone or trying to do anything else. I guess it kind of helps making sure you're focusing lmao
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 12:18 AM
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i love my non powersteering. let me remind you, im not the strongest person and i have no problems at all.. i feel as though it is a bit more responsive and i feel more intouch with my car and the road as opposed to when im driving the better
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 01:04 AM
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Save money on your local gym membership. Remove the A/C you got a sauna, and lose the P/S for a good work out.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 01:40 AM
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Default Re: advantages of manual steering vs power steering? (bpr0422)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bpr0422 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">quicker steering ratio..

how much quicker.. i dunno &gt;__&gt;

edit: w00000000000t 1000th post! </TD></TR></TABLE>

feeding into the brainwash
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 07:22 AM
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loose the power steering... its not bad at all.. get more feel of the road.. i got my manual rack for $20 at local junk yard..
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 09:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by miguel329 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">loose the power steering... its not bad at all.. get more feel of the road.. i got my manual rack for $20 at local junk yard..</TD></TR></TABLE>

if i get rid of the power steering will i definately need to instal a manual rack? and say i decide i want power steering back .. is it hard to reinstall?
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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I looped my p/s rack at first and i didn't like it. I bought a manual rack and i love it. Plus you will know thats the right way to do it
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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yea definatly .. what would u say are a few quick things besides harder turning that i might notice from manual steering instaed of power steering
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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honestly its really not hard at all to turn my car. Do you think all the people who bought the cx hatch are mussel heads? That model didnt have power steering from the factory.

I hate driving a civic/integra with power steering. When driving on the backroads, you have sooo much more control. If you hit a bump mid-turn the wheel wont go crazy just because your hand is on it.

Im pretty sure my turning radius is much better. The overall feel while driving makes you feel more in control I think i payed $50 to get my rack from a junkyard we deal with at work. Installation is pretty easy as well, just make sure to get an alignment afterwards
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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advantages of manual steering vs power steering?

Less moving parts = slightly more reliable.

My EH2 has no PS, and when I jump in my EJ6 w/ PS it feels weird...

I say no PS FTW.

BTW I think Padawan still has PS removal kits FS.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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for sure lose the power steering, you will have more room under the hood, one less fluid system to make a mess, one less belt on the motor to break, and one less system all together to maintain. You can rock out the ps rack all you want without a pump and it works fine, but if you really want it to be nice, buy a manual steering rack, it is smaller which means even less clutter, and has a wider ratio so the wheel won't be quite as much of a bitch to turn when the car is at a stop.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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yea i'm definatley going to look into this more over teh summer, in the mean time i'm going to try and drive a car w/o ps just so i can get a better feel for it
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