first post!!! yay!


so im thinking about gettin an EF civic for an autocross project and was woundering how many people on here autocross there EF, what they have done to the car, and what class they run.

i figured being a cheaper car and being a civic, parts are pretty cheap so it would be a good cadidate for me to start a build.

oh and pics of your rides are always welcome!!

 

Try looking around in the autocross forum

 

its not gonna be cheap to be fast in a ef si.. as thats teh car to have for scca STS class well an 89

 

Yeah I rode in Matt Glagola's (sp) STS2 CRX si and holy crap it was crazy!!!


Modified by SkankyEJ7 at 11:31 AM 4/27/2008

 

cheap all depends on how much money you want to spend and what class you want to run in.

what model ef? std, ex, si?

if your just getting started dont put a wrench to the car unless your just changing the oil. leave the car stock and take to a few events. its easier to learn how to drive a car before you start adding in new variables that come with moddify suspension and other components.

 

Climb_on gave the best advise just keep it stock until you get used to the events. i have been in 9 auto-x events with my 91 crx si with a jdm b16aII. One thing i know is a lot of people think its all about whp that makes you fast. Just remember slower is faster. suspension is one of the best upgrades you can do and lsd. But also remember every time you do something to you suspension you have to basically relearn how your car drives.

just get started and have fun with it

 

do you guys think autocross school will be helpful too? my dad just recently put me under membership for sfr scca and the only experience i have is by watchin my dad go autocrossing in his slightly modified '90 integra when i was child. also he would rarely let me drive his car depending what the errand is. so yeah, i'm also curious, did you guys go to autocross school or did u guys learn by just simply going straight to the events??


Modified by igKNIGHTeD at 3:37 AM 4/27/2008

 

autox school is deifnetly useful, but go to a practice day or two first so you aren't wasting time at the school learning how an autox works.

 

I just started auto x'ing my 97 dx coupe. I dropped it and got a set of azenis...I ran in the sts class and was beating a lot of cars surprisingly...Good tires and suspension are your best friends!!

 

This will help anyone getting into auto-x read it all because all this stuff is true and will help you


http://www.tirerack.com/featur...k.htm

 

going to a autox school will never hurt, I myself went straight to the events. Learned by doing it i guess you could say. i pride myself on being a pretty outspoken and friendly guy so i was quickly to meet some people that have been great help to me.

i did my first events last year and got myself out of novice this year, last event i won my class (STS)

oh and if the EF your getting is a si and you absolutly have to mod it, stick to the sts class guidelines as it will be very competitve car, that is once your skill match the cars abilities.

 

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You do NOT have to modify an EF Civic to be competitive. Espeically in local events. It is a very good HS car.

I have made this recommendation MANY times over the last 10+ years...Do not mod the car first. Make sure you have a good running car. Make sure everything is operating at 100% (bushings, tie rods, wheel bearings, brake capipers pads, fresh oil, clean air filter, etc.) Once the car is tip top mechanically, run a few events (try to find a top level driver to ride with you and show you the ropes). Many orgs now have novice programs. Show up EARLY, Walk the course a LOT. Pay attention and take advantage of the vast info most of these will provide.

The main reason not to start moding the car is you can easily change, add, remove something that will Make the car handle worse or put you into a class that way more prep level than you want. Autocrossing is mainly about the driver. If you get the fundamentals down, you will see much quicker improvements than trying to figure out how to make the car better. You also need to learn what modifications gain you the most time for your given prep class as well.

Anyway, have fun and good luck.

Eric

 

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i agree with you
i was just letting him know that IF he HAS to modify the car to do it in a manner that the car will still be competitive. Its no fun having to run with fully built race cars just becuase you put on a test pipe on your otherwise stock civic.


Modified by climb_on at 10:53 AM 5/1/2008

 

True, it's good to have some seat time before venturing to purchase go-fast goodies. And only do a school once you have a couple events done too because it'll help you understand what the school is all about.

The EF Civic is a great platform and I've been racing it for years. You can't go wrong with it ever. And it's correct that it's getting harder and more expensive to compete in STS, but you might be surprised to know that it's more about the driver and less about the car.

I was at a event in San Diego a couple years ago and run Curt Luther's top prepared STS car and then got in another one that wasn't as well prepared and was almost as fast. A basic prep STS car will be on the same second as the best prepped one.....

If you need any help, I have listed the basic here. http://www.redshiftmotorsports...e.htm

And I'm around for any more specific questions anytime.

Cheers,
Chris Shenefield

 

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i agree with you
i was just letting him know that IF he HAS to modify the car to do it in a manner that the car will still be competitive. Its no fun having to run with fully built race cars just becuase you put on a test pipe on your otherwise stock civic.


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Very true.

 

wow! i thought after the first reply on here said i was in the wrong forum i wouldnt get any type of response. awesome info guys, thanks for all your replys!

now a little background on me. i have been to probably over 10 autocross events here in central IL. mostly with my dad who actually has been autocrossing for over the past 30 years. he had been to nationals countless times, and placed in the top 10 almost everytime. and for a while there he actualy drove for a team. he drove a couple v8 open wheel cars for the team for a while. he was also a writer for Grassroots Motorsports magazine for a while. he hadnt raced much after i was about 5-10 yrs old but once i caught on to it, i always wanted to go to another event.

now he owns a 93' R1 RX-7 and we race in the Super Stock class. we are with vettes so its a lil tricky to keep up, but we have a great time. i personaly have drove the RX-7 in about 5-6 events. placeds relatively well, and actually stayed right with my dads times.

i have attended a couple racing schools. did pretty well, had a great time! and actually wrote an article myself about one of the schools i took, and Grassroots published it. i thought that was kinda cool. but i still feel that i need more seat time. and the only way to cure that is to get my own autocross car.

i think now though, i am leaning more towards a 94+ integra. and i guess at this point, im not to worried about being competitive, just more about having fun and learning as much as i can about autocross and whatever car i end up with. i think i still have a little ways to go before i can really be competitive.

anyway, thats a little bit about me. again guys thanks for all the input! this is one hell of a forum!!

 

An EF in STS? That's inconceivable!

 

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so im thinking about gettin an EF civic for an autocross project and was woundering how many people on here autocross there EF, what they have done to the car, and what class they run.

i figured being a cheaper car and being a civic, parts are pretty cheap so it would be a good cadidate for me to start a build.

oh and pics of your rides are always welcome!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
keep it stock, unless you have a money tree growing in your yard. heres a pic of mine from yesterday. first time out with it, and of course ran into problems and it was pushed to the trailer.

 

you might want to look for a moderately price 92 civic si.
the EF's are kinda a pain to work on sometimes. everything is older of course, and there is alot less room under the hood compared to the EG.

just one example. on the EF you have to drop the fuel tank to get to the fuel pump.
I'm not a fan of the front suspension with the subframe and tension rods. I'm a big tall bastard though. there is alot more headroom in my EG then in my EF.
And parts are just more widely available for the EG.

i think there was a recent thing in Grassroots motorsports comparing a prepped EF civic SI and an EG civic SI. and the EG was pretty much equivalent in laptimes.
maybe it was an older issue. i think Mike King drove his EF and then drove the EG, and he was just as fast in the mildly prepped EG si.

 

good call. im pretty sure i have that issue laying around somewhere...

 

cant go wrong with a DC!!!!

 

im the underdog in my class because i have to compete with old civics.

1st time out and i pushe dit pretty hard. drove too agressively and didnt pace myself.
(it's the white accord, not the yellow M3, LOL)

 

vic sias for the win... gutted accord ewww hahah jk

 

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I think it was Fall 2007 issue. I liked the article as everyone thinks you can only win in an EF Si. But with that chassis getting older and older and everyone wanting one it's going to be next to impossible to find a clean rust free one, just like the EG Si were a few years ago. I believe the EF vs EG was only off by a couple tenths on a small course. Someone else purchased the EG Si from GRM and was doing pretty well.

I picked up one in 2006 with no rust, but abeit some engine problems (which I've been procrastinating fixing), but that is replaceable - body work is more time intensive.

 

ur on baautox.com
i saw your car this weekend, how'd you do?