ok i built a d16z5 in a 91 crx si with high comp pistons, shaved head, stainless steel valves(the valves were the reason the motor came apart one of the exhaust valves was broke) ported and polished, with full exhaust and intake, figuring about 165-170 to the wheels that a far off figure or think its about right i haven't
started it up yet or anything but wanted to know what some one thought on it.
ill try to get some pics up soon

 

i'll mail you a pat on the back if you make 170 out of a even semi driveable d. and this is so the wrong forum for this.

 

high compression on the D16Z5 (same as DOHC ZC) without "big" camshafts and some way to get more air and fuel into the engine (like larger throttle body and chipped ECU) is not going to give you a big boost in horsepower - you are probably looking at somewhere around 135whp - what is the compression ratio? how much was head milled?

 

head wasnt milled that much maybe .02 to get the warping out but im thinking right around 12.5 to 1 maybe a little higher.

 

 

ok yeah i know it is bull im really not sure why i said so much, But is 135-140 a good ballpark figure i mean wtf mate what do you think it will be?

 

you know what i think it'll be? a waste of a few hundred bucks. sorry man, just the truth. for what you'd put into a built dohc d, you can get a b with the same power not modified. why bother?

 

because a B series is what a sheep would install...some of us arent out to be a "super baller" or a "super power maker" and have a b series swap...some ppl are just working with what they got...and if hes building a "high compression zc" then let him...i mean wouldnt you hate it if ppl were always pissing in YOUR wheaties?
build a D, ftw......[freak] vtec...just another thing to get pissed off at when it doesnt work right

 

hey thanx for the input im not looking to be any faster than a b series tho. i figure if i can make keep up with one for about half the money then why not? i wont be able to keep this car for more than two years anyways. THATS why i didnt go b series and its my first engine build by my self so im doing it mainly for the learning.

 

i had a jdm dohc zc wit 9;5 compression i/h/e and i was still whoopin gsrs and b16s.alot of ppl can vouch for me.im sure ul get good power out of ur build

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by epicbeats &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had a jdm dohc zc wit 9;5 compression i/h/e and i was still whoopin gsrs and b16s.alot of ppl can vouch for me.im sure ul get good power out of ur build</TD></TR></TABLE>

Here you go again with your horseshit.

 

lol yup!

dude zc suck for all motor,ull only get beat by a stock zc with a hmt kit.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by epicbeats &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had a jdm dohc zc wit 9;5 compression i/h/e and i was still whoopin gsrs and b16s.alot of ppl can vouch for me.im sure ul get good power out of ur build</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're a filthy liar. Don't open your ignorant pig mouth in our forum. Thanks.

 

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You're a filthy liar. Don't open your ignorant pig mouth in our forum. Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

funnies

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondasaurusrex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">because a B series is what a sheep would install...some of us arent out to be a "super baller" or a "super power maker" and have a b series swap...some ppl are just working with what they got...and if hes building a "high compression zc" then let him...i mean wouldnt you hate it if ppl were always pissing in YOUR wheaties?
build a D, ftw......[freak] vtec...just another thing to get pissed off at when it doesnt work right</TD></TR></TABLE>
us DOHC ZC guys always get the bad wrap because people think we're just cheap, but in all reality if someone can make good numbers without falling into the "B crowd" more power to them. but everyone hates exaggerations and lies

 

if your looking for a fun ride then a built d is awesome. if you are gonna be mad jay dee em yo then be like the guys telling you you wasted your money do what you want to do, im planning on building a d15 block with my mpfi conversion cuz i dont have the money for a big swap. dirty d's seem to get a lot of b series off the line because of the lesser weight crankshaft.

 

why not just boost the d?

 

i thought about boosting but i havent seen a built n/a d and like i said im getting rid of the car in two years if i like it or not so i didnt want to drop too much into it.

 

If a B is such a sheep swap... then why not just put a C32 in it and be really original? What stupid reasoning.

I was trying to say that why build a D when the same money (machining, pistons, rings, tools, gaskets, all the other crap you should replace when building a motor) can go towards buying you a B that in BONE STOCK form will outperform the D in every way?

I guess i'm a sheep cause i dont like wasting money to make mediocre horsepower on N/A single cams. and spend it on other and more important things (like my chassis). Don't get me wrong... if your in love with one bumpstick or whatever.. more power to you. But dollar for dollar in the N/A world... theres really no comparison.

 

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE A SHEEP THEN DON'T DRIVE A F'ING HONDA!!!

God I'm so sick of people saying"B swaps are what everyone's doing, I want to be different!!!"

I love the B. I love the D. I really don't give a damn what you do personally, but for God's sake stop using "I wan to be different" as your excuse for building whatever engine you're choosing to build.


Modified by B18C5-EH2 at 10:06 AM 4/23/2008

 

why you guys fighting over something we all know the answer too. it dont matter what motor u have or build every motor has its good point and bad..i dont cARE if its a b18c or a d16a6


Modified by zccr-xsi at 7:08 PM 4/23/2008

 

wow if i knew it would cause so much bickering i wouldnt have asked all i wanted to know is how much power i should expect not that the d isnt built that much and ITS NOT A SINGLE CAM if it was, i would have really thought about boosting it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ComeOnKip &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
dollar for dollar in the N/A world... theres really no comparison.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ya in the N/A world. most of the time. (Look at the history of the mugen d16a6 in my avitar)

Lets break it down:

1.) not to get me wrong I like both b-series and d-series in different ways
2.) Getting 135 whp out of a d-series is not that hard N/A and costs much less than a b16
3.) Most b-series swaps these days for a "NOOB" costs between 2000 and 2500
4.) Simple changes in the d-series vtec engines will make 135 whp and what is the whp of a b-16? (135-140) TOPS

So you all can take these facts and Think about what your saying. You b-series guys obviously have never really tried to put your good skills in motor building into a d-series.

In the boosting world its a different story.

For the original poster:

Use this link to check out your setup and find the compression ratios.

http://www.zealautowerks.com/dseries.html

You all make me smile!


Modified by whiteknightef at 6:16 PM 4/23/2008

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by whiteknightef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Ya in the N/A world. most of the time. (Look at the history of the mugen d16a6 in my avitar)

Lets break it down:

1.) not to get me wrong I like both b-series and d-series in different ways
2.) Getting 135 whp out of a d-series is not that hard N/A and costs much less than a b16
3.) Most b-series swaps these days for a "NOOB" costs between 2000 and 2500
4.) Simple changes in the d-series vtec engines will make 135 whp and what is the whp of a b-16? (135-140) TOPS

So you all can take these facts and Think about what your saying. You b-series guys obviously have never really tried to put your good skills in motor building into a d-series.

In the boosting world its a different story.

For the original poster:

Use this link to check out your setup and find the compression ratios.

http://www.zealautowerks.com/dseries.html

You all make me smile!


Modified by whiteknightef at 6:16 PM 4/23/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

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