hello, im new to forums and posting, but i need help. i bought an obd1 b16a to swap into my 92 honda civic dx hatchback. Came with motor, transmission, ecu (p30), axles, wiring, stock mounts, and shift linkage. I think thats everything. i need to know what all is involved in putting the motor in my car, do i need different mounts, wiring ect. I searched but could never find a good write up. If you could point me to a write up or provide the information that would help a lot. Thank you for your time Shaun Bott.

im also going to do a timing belt and water pump on this motor while its out of the car. i was wondering what is the equivalent American car/motor, so i can buy the parts needed? thank you..

this is a post that i already made. but i had more questions about a reply i got and was wondering if someone could help? but here was the reply.


The 99-00 Civic SI timing components will all be exactly the same.

You will need B series mounts for an EG.

I recomend hittin the HT sponsors and gettin some Hasport or Innovative.

If you wanna save a few dollars you can get avid's = they are also decent for the money.

You will just modify your current harness for the b16 motor. It isn't really that difficult and if you do some searching you can find quite a few threads explaining the process. I would hit the Civic Forum though, cause the B16 Into an EG isn't really a hybrid swap! You will find alot more info in there.

Any thread related to putting a B-series motor into an EG (92-95 Civic) will be almost exactly the same as what your doing except you will need to wire in VTEC.

But the motor that i bought came out of an eg6 civic in japan just like mine. with stock b16 mounts that were in the civic in japan. can i use these mounts.. and i also need to know how to do the wiring.. can someone point me in the right dirrection

 

If anyone could please help it would be much appreciated. I have been searching on honda-tech. The search engine brings up to many random threads it would take quite sometime to sort out one that might resemble some truth. If you could please point us in the right direction I am trying to help my novice car friend Sbott84.

 

If you bought a obd1 b16, the mounts linkages and harness thats on the motor you bought is what you need to make it work. oh, yeah axles that you got with the setup is what you need too. I'm almost positive that the del sol b16 belt and pumps is what you need.

 

So what is involved in wiring the harness?

 

This is a straight swap you take out the dx and add the b16 the b16 harness will clip straight into the factory dx harness all you have to do is add the vtech wires when you are done make sure you have the Dohc Catalytic converter the dx will not match the motor if you have power steering all you need is a dohc poer steering pump the civic lines will bolt up if you have ac you must check to make sure that b16 will match the bolt pattern of the A.C. its really just alot of wrenching nothing more any questions Email me Directly Nelm978@msn.com I can provide pictures and details. Also the delsol b16 is an exact match for the timing belt and water pump you need

 

actually since it's a 92 you don't even have to wire up vtec if you use the b16 harness because on all 92's they re already wired for it to the shock tower connectin. so it's all plug and play. should be a peiceof cake.

 

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yes, the 94-95 DOHC (B16A3) del sols will work. it has to do with the amount of teeth the water pulley has vs. the othe b16's ,18's, etc.

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uhh...what?
actually, it will fit straight to the factory cat, unless he was blessed with some type header, the factory manifold will bolt directly.

again, unless this obd1 b16 came out of a 94-95 del sol, his a/c will have to come from his civic, which in this case all the OP has to do is swap out compressor brackets, pulley, and tensioner.

to the OP:
being that all 92 civics were pre-wired for vtec, this swap is a plug n play. there is nothing you have to do for wiring. there is nothing special to this swap, just literally rip out the old one and bolt in the new one.

 

if the swap comes with shift linkage can you use it or do you have to use 94 up teg linkage and can you use stock mounts or you have to get hasport or other aftermarket mounts?

edit: oh and what about the rear T bracket dont you need that off a teg aswell?


Modified by 92egSnatch at 3:00 PM 4/11/2008

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92egSnatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if the swap comes with shift linkage can you use it or do you have to use 94 up teg linkage and can you use stock mounts or you have to get hasport or other aftermarket mounts?

edit: oh and what about the rear T bracket dont you need that off a teg aswell?


Modified by 92egSnatch at 3:00 PM 4/11/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

depends where the motor came from. if the motor came out of a del sol, then no, you cannot use the linkage. as for mounts, you can use all the mounts except the tranny one. you will need a b-series trnny mount. if the motor came out of a 99-00 civic si you will need to replace the tranny and the upper left mount.

as for the t- bracket, i believe thwe only one that is slightly different is the 99-00 civic si.

oh yeah, stock mount are fine, but hasport are better.

 

I'd say the del sol b16 lnkages will fit, a regular eg.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cherroneballs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd say the del sol b16 lnkages will fit, a regular eg.</TD></TR></TABLE>

why do rookies love to challenge?
the del sol linkage will not fit on a eg, better do your homework Jr.

 

rookie? Sorry but I've never owned a girly del slow, and have no reason to do homework on one. People come here to help each other out not to hear peoples smart azz comments.

 

don't knock the del sol....its not like you have a faster stock car according to your pic....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cherroneballs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd say the del sol b16 lnkages will fit, a regular eg.</TD></TR></TABLE>

00 si linkage son well that whats i have

 

Your right it's not faster stock but Who keeps there stuff stock?


Modified by cherroneballs at 1:34 PM 4/13/2008

 

nobody has mention about knock sensor wiring, ur gonna have to wire that as well. it's just a one wire that u have to wire directly from the knock sensor onto ur ecu plugs on slot D3. ur motor and mounts should be fine, just change ur rear mount to integra, ur shift linkages should be fine as well if it's the jdm b16 shiftlinkages from the 92-95 civics, i believe it's gold correct, if it's not then it's not the jdm shiftlinkages.

 

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you're right, people do come here to help each other out, but if you are going to spread mis-information stating you can put a del sol shift linkage in a eg, then you're not helping. so again do your homework.

 

Funny how everyone is saying use the jdm b16a engine harness and just plug it up. Too bad it is a mirror image of a usdm car..........the absolute no brainer easiest way to do the wiring is to get a 92-95 Civic Ex single cam vtec engine harness and use that or even easier a 94-95 Gs-r Integra harness and plug that up at the shock towers. If you can't get either of those use your 92 dx harness and add the few wires for vtec and knock sensor so the p30 doesn't throw a cel.

as for mounts use your existing single cam mounts or the ones that came with your swap or any 94-01 Integra mounts/T bracket/axles/shift linkage

 

hmm lets see o yea thats right i have a 95 hatch with a b16 in it wow i may know a thing or two... yes stock mounts that came with the engine will work, better to get new ones, but they will work if you got the full engine with mounts on it from japan.... also yes the jdm harness is 100% backwards as far as USDM goes rhd vs. lhd, axels that came with engine would work if not b-series axles for an eg are not hard to get, shift linkage... best bet is one made for the swap or an integra sl, other than that the harness you can get off an integra or even a del sol (b16 of course) since its obd1 you cant use the 99-00 si yet if you get anything integra besides a gsr you must wire the vtec in there is a guy i know who makes a great sub harness for vtec and sells them on ebay... like 20 or 30 bucks... worth the headache of doin it yourself.... other than that have fun its such a straight forward swap.. dont let people arguing over del sol's and integra parts get in your way

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by USDMCIVICHATCH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Funny how everyone is saying use the jdm b16a engine harness and just plug it up. Too bad it is a mirror image of a usdm car..........the absolute no brainer easiest way to do the wiring is to get a 92-95 Civic Ex single cam vtec engine harness and use that or even easier a 94-95 Gs-r Integra harness and plug that up at the shock towers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

here's a no brainer, why not just take the jdm harness off the engine, reverse it, then reconnect.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by btk2334 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> shift linkage... best bet is one made for the swap or an integra sl, other than that the harness you can get off an integra or even a del sol (b16 of course) since its obd1 you cant use the 99-00 si yet if you get anything integra besides a gsr you must wire the vtec in there is a guy i know who makes a great sub harness for vtec and sells them on ebay... like 20 or 30 bucks... worth the headache of doin it yourself.... other than that have fun its such a straight forward swap.. dont let people arguing over del sol's and integra parts get in your way </TD></TR></TABLE>

this goes for you too...
no is argiung over del sol parts, it's the false info that's being spreaded.
again the harness can be reversed, and the only shift linkage that can't be used is the del sol one, that's it!

 

Right just had a read through of this and a few things have come to my attention.

You didn't mention anything about having a dirrerent fuel tank which will be needed if you are changing a DX (1.3) to a B16a ehgine as the fuel lines are different sizes.

Also it seems you have got hold of a JDM DelSol engine, you wont be able to use the Gear linkages from this as the DelSol & Crx mk3 linkages are different to those on the EG Civic, I know this as when I change my Sol's D series engine to a B series engine I couldn't use the linkages from a civic on it.

Also you will be able to use the existing wiring harnes on both the car side and eninge side but will need to add a knock sensor and Vtec wire to the car side, this is an easy enough job takes me about an hour to do each one and have done this a few times with no troubles.

Timing belt you can get direct from honda and will be the same as that off a civic sir, vti (uk spec)

The oil pump as far as I know is the same for both DelSols and Civic's but be careful as JDM to EDM and USDM all have their own little differences, if you need JDM or EDM parts let me know as I live in the UK and strip hondas all day long for pocket money.

Good luck with the build if I can do it you could get a monkey eating a banana doing it so you should be fine.

Ecc0

 

everyone's a critic... just wondering have you ever tried using a jdm harness in a usdm car... it doesnt work without modding it.... yes you can extend some plugs and run them to the other side, but thats too messy for me... well im done i tried to help but apparently ive been nothing but wrong but hell who knows... i guess my engine doesnt really work... its all in my head

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by btk2334 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">everyone's a critic... just wondering have you ever tried using a jdm harness in a usdm car... it doesnt work without modding it.... yes you can extend some plugs and run them to the other side, but thats too messy for me... well im done i tried to help but apparently ive been nothing but wrong but hell who knows... i guess my engine doesnt really work... its all in my head</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'm using a jdm harness on a 93 dx hatch w/ a B16A.

 

Not trying to spread misinfo. just assumed since the 99-00 si links are the same as the 94-01 kinks that the dl slow b16 ones wouldbe the same.