F23 turbo questions
Im starting to put together a turbo set up for my 99 4 cyl and I have a few questions. First, how would I go about installing the oil lines? Second, I am leaking very little oil from somewhere (which I expected to have since I have 140,xxx on the engine) so would I need to fix that and since I have so many miles should I even bother trying a turbo at all? I really dont wanna get a new motor if I dont have to so im a little worried about the high mileage. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
C'mon guys..hasnt anyone ever installed a turbo before??? Also how much boost can I run daily and safely without damaging my engine???? Any input would help. Thanks
Remove oil pan and drill a hole running line to it. Change all gaskets and seals might help. Turboing the car, why not? If your using knock off stuff like ebay china turbo kit forget it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecpower3088 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also how much boost can I run daily and safely without damaging my engine???? Any input would help. Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's not about 'how much boost' you can run, it's about TUNING TUNING TUNING. What engine management do you have? Sounds like you may be jumping into something here way before you are ready....have you checked out the FAQs in the forced induction forum?
It's not about 'how much boost' you can run, it's about TUNING TUNING TUNING. What engine management do you have? Sounds like you may be jumping into something here way before you are ready....have you checked out the FAQs in the forced induction forum?
yeah i have done a lot of research on this but there are still a few things that im trying to work out. What management system would work best? Im starting to build the kit and there is no way im gonna use cheap ebay parts. I have a turbonetics t3/t4 turbo and a cast manifold from a local shop already. Also this is my first turbo install so im questioning doin it myself or having my shop do it. I wanna learn how to do it but I dont wanna blow my motor either.
Depends on your budget..there are 'free' tuning programs like Crome or Neptune, there's piggybacks like Hondata, and then you have full stand alone ECUs like AEM, FAST, MOTEC, etc etc...
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Tuning is crucial, but you still have to be reasonable with the boost, i am running 10psi (stock block) and the most i would suggest running would be 12psi on a stock F-series motor, its cast but i wouldnt chance it. Even with 6 or 8psi you will be able to tell a NIGHT vs DAY difference.
Definitely hunt down your oil peak before going turbo. If you are going to rip things apart anyway replace your headgasket and get some new head studs to keep boost at bay. Properly preparing an engine is key when building a turbo car especially when it is a high mileage engine.
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my .02 budget build
DSM injectors- FI classifieds
ARP headstuds- ebay
Honda OEM headgasket
intercooler + piping kit- ebay
used 38mm tial wastegate - FI classifieds
used bov - FI classifieds
255lph walbro fuel-ebay
p28 hondata s300 w boost control- phearable or FI classifieds if lucky
3" downpipe/dump-local exhaust shop
boost/oil press/egt/wideband guages- ebay/FI classifieds
Others have given very good advice for you to follow -
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TASAuto.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Properly preparing an engine is key when building a turbo car especially when it is a high mileage engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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It's not about 'how much boost' you can run, it's about TUNING TUNING TUNING </TD></TR></TABLE>
what hawkze means by tuning is air fuel ratio. That is the most important part of tuning. PSI is irrelevant. but without a healthy motor your just building a ticking time bomb. Your car is only as strong as its weakest link. Rebuild your motor.
After thats done, set a power goal, but remember, the more power, the less reliable the motor will become. With the 450cc injectors i recomended, your power goal will be limited to the 300hp range.
Searching is a very powerful tool. There are many things that can go wrong with turbocharged applications, and what can go wrong will go wrong. So be ready to become a part time mechanic.
Finally get the car dyno tuned by a reputable tuner and youll be good to go
my .02 budget build
DSM injectors- FI classifieds
ARP headstuds- ebay
Honda OEM headgasket
intercooler + piping kit- ebay
used 38mm tial wastegate - FI classifieds
used bov - FI classifieds
255lph walbro fuel-ebay
p28 hondata s300 w boost control- phearable or FI classifieds if lucky
3" downpipe/dump-local exhaust shop
boost/oil press/egt/wideband guages- ebay/FI classifieds
Others have given very good advice for you to follow -
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TASAuto.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Properly preparing an engine is key when building a turbo car especially when it is a high mileage engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hawkze_2.3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It's not about 'how much boost' you can run, it's about TUNING TUNING TUNING </TD></TR></TABLE>
what hawkze means by tuning is air fuel ratio. That is the most important part of tuning. PSI is irrelevant. but without a healthy motor your just building a ticking time bomb. Your car is only as strong as its weakest link. Rebuild your motor.
After thats done, set a power goal, but remember, the more power, the less reliable the motor will become. With the 450cc injectors i recomended, your power goal will be limited to the 300hp range.
Searching is a very powerful tool. There are many things that can go wrong with turbocharged applications, and what can go wrong will go wrong. So be ready to become a part time mechanic.
Finally get the car dyno tuned by a reputable tuner and youll be good to go
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