I'm sure most of you have seen my ongoing rebuild thread. So yesterday i decided to add the Manual Transmission Fluid and i bought only one from the Honda dealer since i had some already. Not paying attention, i first added one quart of the one i had from about 2 months ago, then one quart of one i had from 3 weeks ago. Then i noticed the texture was way different... the old one was like engine oil and the new one was thinner and has a pinkish hue to it. Thats when i picked up the one i just bought and noticed that it the last 2 i bought had a different label alltogether...

Do you think i should drain my trans and full up with the new one only? Is mixing the old mtf and the new mtf wise/safe? Any help will be appreciated, thanks.

 

they changed the fluid over to a new formula like a year or so ago. i would spend the 15 or so dollars and fill it up with all the same fluid

 

damn i wish it was $15 here, the dealer charges me $40 for 3 qts .

Theyre the only local honda dealer so the can pretty much name their price.

 

Would it be cheaper to order from Len @ sons acura? Shipping may delete any savings ?

 

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len cant ship mtf

 

the new and the old is compatible. i have used the new mtf since it came out and now on my new tranny and no issues. it is made by http://www.idemitsu-usa.com/

anyway enough of my ramblings


Modified by b20xx at 7:48 AM 4/8/2008

 

if you are still worried about it run the synthetic GM syncoromesh. ive never had a problem with it

 

I've been using the green bottled stuff in my new trans, no problems for the last 4,000 miles. I do plan on dropping it this coming weekend, IF you want I could report back in with details...

 

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Theyre the only local honda dealer so the can pretty much name their price.</TD></TR></TABLE>

where are you buying it from? you are getting your head chopped off lol..

MTF is only around $5.00 a bottle.

 

i dont like the new stuff, it looks so much thinner compared to the old stuff.

 

Hmm, I never noticed they changed the fluid...

Might be why at the end of last season when I put new honda mtf in the racecar I began to get grinds around 8500-9000 rpms. Flushed it out and put redline in and didnt have anymore issues.

 

i might try the redline ****...my R started grinding after a rebuild, so im rebuilding it again.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jaa1311 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm, I never noticed they changed the fluid...

Might be why at the end of last season when I put new honda mtf in the racecar I began to get grinds around 8500-9000 rpms. Flushed it out and put redline in and didnt have anymore issues.

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which redline did you use


and to the OP, if you mix the old formula with the newer one, it will explode


Modified by Evil Ryu at 10:05 AM 4/8/2008

 

wow, i just bought MTF today at Rick Hendrick Honda for 4.75 a qt........

 

Using old and updated versions of honda mtf will be fine.

 

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where are you buying it from? you are getting your head chopped off lol..

MTF is only around $5.00 a bottle. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I always get my MTF from pohanka honda, they give me wholesale I come in there so much

I would just go drain the mix and refill it with the new formula. Its an ITR dont be cheap.

 

I would either flush it out and put new MTF fluid in it or run GM Synchromesh fluid. I 've ran the GM fluid in all my ITR gearboxes and have loved every minute of the grind-free driving.

Some people call it Jesus fluid for it's ability to cure small grinds, which it did for me in my old ITR.

 

the new and the old fluids are compatible with each other, no worries..

from my experience, the new fluid is much better than the old fluid. it solved 07-08 tl 3rd gear grinds

 

Thanks guys... i might just drain it and use the new one... i don't wan't any problems or issues.

 

you wont have any problems with the old one...ive used it for years in all my honda vehicles and never had anything go wrong...

 

the new Honda MTF has friction modified additives compared to the old MTF.

strange bottles you have though...the ones we have here are all black with a black honda label...

 

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Same here...

 

All the Honda MTF I've used has looked like the bottle pictured on the left. I got a bottle once labeled for for extended service, but the bottle otherwise looked the same and noted it was compatible with the regular MTF.

 

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I bought some last month and it actually had an Acura label on it. The dealership said a lot of Acura customers were complaining that the parts they order had Honda packing

 

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