Hi Guys,
I have a set of JDM power-fold-in mirrors for my G2 teg, and I needed a little help with the wireing. I have most of it done already, there is just one part I am stuck on: There is a wire for fold-in and another wire for fold-out on the mirrors. I have one wire off my alarm for the power door locks. I was wondering if there was some sort of relay or something that I could get that would switch between the fold-in and fold-out wires every time the power locks are activated. So when I arm my alarm the mirrors fold in and when I disarm the alarm the mirrors fold out. Any help would be greatly appriciated.

 

I have no idea how its wired but have you been to
www.g2ic.com
you should check this site out, and ask that same question or check the integra tips.

 

Yea, I checked the teg tips there, and there is a tip on wiring the mirrors, but they do it to the stock JDM power mirror switch, and it looks like they made it waaaayyy more complicated than they had to. Like I said I am going to wire them to my alarm to work, not a switch. Hmmmm maybe I just have to stare at the wires for a while longer...

 

On the alarm, there should be a Ground when armed wire coming off of it. You can use the starter kill wire as well(from the alarm). I would run a relay to activate when the alarm is armed from that wire. If you know how to wire a relay, it should be easy. If not, email me and I can try to help.

 

Hey that's an interesting idea, it would be neat to see that in action.

 

this is actually a pretty cool idea. now i understand the hoopla over the JDM power mirrors. i never realized the "power" feature was for the folding too...i just assumed it was for mirror adjustment like we have on the DC/DB.

to address your question, not sure what alarm system you have, but if you could tell us the different signals that come from the control unit, that would be helpful. i'm assuming there should be some kind of indicator of when the system is armed or if the doors should be locked. let us know and we can come up with some creative solutions.

 

yeah, if it were me, i'd tie it to some remote kill switch that i had.

 

My alarm is just a standard Alpine 8035 or something like that. It is on the upper end of their range, as it has the power door lock module, but I'm not sure on the exact model specifications. I have all the info at home though.
Good idea about the starter kill lead - that is only on when the alarm is on so it might work for the fold-in. Anyway, I'm going to check out the wireing diagram for my alarm when I get home from work. Perhaps there is actually a seperate hot lead for arm and disarm. Then I could just run 2 wires to the doors to meet up with the 2 wires from each mirror - that would be easy!

 

sounds like u are on the right track. hopefully a simple switch or mux will do the trick. good luck!

 

yeah...use your started cut wire. remember to diode isolate each item(starter cut relay and the mirrors). dont want feed back from either. and use a good relay and your all set. were did you get your folding mirrors?

 

This the the way I'd personally do it....


Power fold in wire - Connect to negative output when armed, such as starter kill wire, if you need a positive signal, use a relay to convert.

Power fold out wire - Connect to radio/ignition remote wire, so that when car is turned on the the ACC position and On, the mirrors will automatically fold out.

This will allow for power fold in when you arm, and power fold out when you start the car.

-Rage

 

do the JDM mirrors have a park/fold down option like on sum bmw's so when you parallel park or whatever your mirrors tilt down and you can see the curb/sidewalk/car behind and stuff? thats pretty cool.. anyway most alarms have an armed out put (-) that you can probably hook up to for the fold in... as for disarm/folding out.. I like rages idea wiring it to the ON position as I wouldnt want to disarm the alarm just to take something out of the trunk or whatever and have them fold out when I'm not actually driving...

 

if you do it the way they are saying by using just a relay and starter kill wire you more than likely will burn up the motor in the mirror,it will just keep going and going and going all night long,trying to fold in,you should use a timed relay,one that will only fold for 5 or 10 seconds then cut off,my alarm actaully has a built in realy that you can set to activate how ever long you want it to.you can try it their way but im pretty sure it will just keep the motor folding in.

 

Ok guys,
Last night I got both mirrors properly wired only to find out they don't work
Anyway, I just wired them to the power door lock leads - it was easy.

Door lock common from alarm to power fold-in on mirror
Door unlock common from alarm to power fold-out on mirror
This way there is a 3 second power pulse from the alarm for fold in and out.
It works on the drivers side mirror (sometimes) but not the passenger mirror....

The deal is that the mirrors are so old the motors are worn out and don't move very well. I got the mirrors used for $100 from a place called Jay's auto wrecking in California a couple of months ago - and the guy assured me that they worked great before they were shipped. Guess what? they don't work. I know they are wired correctly now and should be working. This really bumms me out, but I guess that's what I get for trusting somebody. So don't ever buy anything from those lieing bastards!

No real solution to this problem I guess short of either rebuilding or replacing the motors on the mirrors (that sounds like fun huh?), or just getting a whole new set. I don't really wanna do that right now cuz it would prolly be 300 bucks for another set and theres no guarentee I wouldn't just get screwed again. any ideas???

 

did you try em out before you mounted them on the car? maybe the lock wires dont have enough juice....i would never use those wires for anything other then to lock unlock the doors.

 

Update:
The drivers side mirror is alright and works all the time now - but it does seem like the motor and the hinge need to be greased and/or rebuilt. The passenger mirror only moves a little when the power pulse is applied from the alarm.

For this install I think the power door lock wires will be sufficient. There is a fuse on the door locking circut, and the wires are larger gague (12awg I think) so the mirrors are getting enough power. I also switched the alarm from the standard 1 second power pulse to a 3 second pulse to give the mirrors enough time to fold.

I will probably take apart the passenger side mirror this weekend and see if I can figure out what the problem is. Hopefully it will respond to a liberal application of grease, but if not I guess I will have to find a replacement motor or get a new set of mirrors. If somebody out there in HT land knows of a dealer that can get New Old Stock honda JDM parts I would love to hear from you

 

Try Autosonic in Arcadia 1(626)294-9115. They hooked up mine.That's where i bought them from also.

 

I think grsracerboi and I were under the impression that the mirrors take in a constant input and automatically stop when the mirror is correctly folded in/out.

It seems thought the mirrors do not have this ability and need to be timed. I still personally think you should check the mirror against a fused battery wire (even if you just hold it to a terminal thats fused to see the mirrors fold) to double check if the mirrors are getting proper juice, sometimes even though your running 12 gauge from the power window wiring to the mirror, the stock wiring might not be enough (I had a similar problem with power window wires).

It's worth the 5 mins to check, then to go dissassembling the mirror. If it works when you try this method, post back and we can give you help on using a relay, your timed output and the battery lead.

Good Luck
-Rage

 

o_Rage_o,
Thanks, for the advice, I did double check the mirrors by directly wireing them to the battery (fused wire and just held it onto the terminal) and they appear to work the same as when they are wired to the door lock leads; i.e: sluggish and slow. So I am pretty sure that they are getting enough juice, just old motors. Perhaps sometime this week I will take them apart and try greasing everything.

 

hey Redtail i got some questions for you.
DO you have an email addy or AIM screen name? thanks...the email in ur profile doesn't work.

 

um...I'm new ta' this board but a friend sent me this link 'cause I'm workin' on this same problem

I have a 5th gen accord and the mirrors are wired and workin'
but I'm tryin' ta' figure out how to hook 'em to my alarm too
so far the idea is to get a relay that's triggered by the alarm that'll send a 12v signal to the mirrors
I tried to connect 'em directly to the alarm but I guess the alarm's workin' with less than 12 volts...

so yah...

 

Rolling Culture: No power door locks on your alarm huh? I donno what would be the best way to do it then...maybe to the starter kill with a timed relay like some of the others said.

One Clean Ride - you can just post your question under this thread if it is related, otherwise I'm not a professional audio installer or anything (thank god) but I will try to help if I can

 

naw, the alarm has power locks, but if I go that route then the mirrors'll fold every time the doors lock, I just want 'em ta' fold when I hit the alarm.
I've got the JDM mirror switch that controls them so if this isn't possible it's all good