Does anyone have one of these, and would the benefits be worth the 70bucks? I'm in need to replace all that good stuff, clutch master cylinder and slave cylinder so I thought it possibly be a good add on to a new CMC.

http://www.modacar.com/product....html


Thanks!

 

Search in the RR/AX archives for "brace" "master cylinder" and the like. A few years ago there was some testing done with this type of thing. If I remember right, it actually caused more problems than it fixed.

 

I don't think you need to brace your clutch master cylinder. Brake, maybe, but clutch, no.

 

Oh, oops totally misread that. Yeah, bracing the clutch MC is 100% worthless.

 

Thanks for the replies and saving me 70 bucks!

 

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i never understood that brace!

 

However, what WOULD be awesome is using a Wilwood 0.75" bore clutch master cylinder. It gives you a nice and short clutch pedal stroke.

 

the part in that link is a brake master cylinder brace. for the brakes it would work pretty well with a good brake setup on r-comps with a great driver. it will help with brake feel and modulation.

as far as things for a clutch that are similar it would be completely useless. stainless clutch line and replace the MC and slave cyl. and youll be good.

 

I have an MC Brake Brace and found it to be a really nice, cheap upgrade (you can get billet Al ones for 40 bucks on ebay). if you want to prove it to yourself that it works, have a friend step on the brake pedal while you watch the MC from outside (without the brace). When someone stomps on it, the entire firewall flexes and the MC moves about 1/2", then put on the brace and notice the difference.

 

I bought a cheap brace off ebay, and it does work. Pedal is stiffer, and under hard braking you won't be pushing the pedal as far.

 

my carbing bar has that built in, cant say i noticed much difference..

 

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step harder! jk

 

haha,mad JDM ignorance wins again!......"all the ****** have bought our MC brace,what now?CLUTCH MC brace!" "Brilliant!!".


i did notice a difference with a brace on the brake MC.i made it for $5 in scrap metal.if that's not an option,as somebody stated above you can get billet aluminum ones off Ebay for $40.

bracing the clutch MC?......wow
Chris

 

Since I guess nobody searched: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=556902
Hooray dynamic alignment change!

That is for one specific design, where the brace would attach to the shock tower. In addition to that, I've had a few bad cases with metal fatigue failure and Cusco products. Not saying that's a common thing, just a personal note.

 

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Hooray dynamic alignment change!

That is for one specific design, where the brace would attach to the shock tower. In addition to that, I've had a few bad cases with metal fatigue failure and Cusco products. Not saying that's a common thing, just a personal note.</TD></TR></TABLE>
and the search function wins yet again!!!

 

Thanks for your comments,

by the way I did search, I guess I should of generalized my search as I didn't know such brace existed.

 

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Hooray dynamic alignment change!

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i didn't search,but that's because this thread's not about Brake MC braces in the first place....besides,if i would have searched and found that thread,then wasted five minutes reading it,i'd be just as mad as i am now! all those posts,but nobody put the car on an alignment machine to actually test how much-if any-it changes alignment.just a bunch of useless arguing and no concrete info.

i don't want to turn this thread into a debate on Brake MC braces,since that's not what the OP intended it to be about,but let me give my opinion anyway
i built a cheapo brake MC brace just to try it out.i made no other changes at all to the car from the last track day.with the brace,the pedal does feel firmer on the street and track.i think it gives me more confidence in hard braking zones like at the end of straights,but it could be the placebo effect too.i can say the car did not handle any differently.
nobody can say that this has any discernible effect on a car on track.you can't tell me the LCAs and other rubber bushings aren't deflecting a considerable amount under braking and changing the alignment more than a few mm deflection on the side of the shock tower is.

bottom line-i have no concrete evidence either

chris

 

Chris, that wasn't directed at you, my apologies if you took it that way. And yeah, while the thread did start out with clutch MC braces, other people (myself as well, initially and foolishly) jumped on the brake MC brace thing. That was the initial discussion I posted. Later on, and maybe on a different forum, there was harder evidence for that dynamic change, and it was significant. Fat lot of good it does me just stating that of course At the same time, it is design dependent.

 

i brought up the brake master cylinder brace (everyone else should say they did too ) because the OP posted a link to a brake master cylinder brace not a clutch master cyl. brace.

original poster, dont buy this part hoping it will help your clutch in any way.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stinkycheezmonky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Chris, that wasn't directed at you, my apologies if you took it that way. And yeah, while the thread did start out with clutch MC braces, other people (myself as well, initially and foolishly) jumped on the brake MC brace thing. That was the initial discussion I posted. Later on, and maybe on a different forum, there was harder evidence for that dynamic change, and it was significant. Fat lot of good it does me just stating that of course At the same time, it is design dependent.</TD></TR></TABLE>
no problem-i didn't think it was....i just read your link hoping to learn something,and was throughly dissapointed
on that subject,i can check toe/caster/camber changes with the brace using my equipment at home,but it's all mechanical and obviously won't pick up minute changes like an electronic rack would.
i'll be checking my alignment before Expo,so i'll post in that thread when i do it.
Chris

 

for hard empirical evidence

 

Bump on this test. anyone put there car on the rack and tested it out if they got any flex?

 

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i'll be aligning my car this weekend for Expo,so i'll see if i can measure any difference with my manual tools.
Chris

 

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i'll be aligning my car this weekend for Expo,so i'll see if i can measure any difference with my manual tools.
Chris</TD></TR></TABLE>
results posted in the original thread......
*spoiler* i couldn't detect any alignment change
Chris

 

I just did an extensive analysis of the worries people mention about the MC Brace mod. Results = use the MC brace, and don't worry about the flexing of the shock tower, just enjoy the increased pedal feel.

https://honda-tech.com/zero...ge=6