I got a 99-00 si this is my daily but i want to have some fun and be a little quick now ive researched and i seen the average with the b16a is in mid 15s i know what swaps are available to me but i would like to know some time with a gs-r swap itr swap and some modded b16s i would pefer n/a remember this is my daily thanks guys

 

How much $$ are willing to spend?

Also, having FI doesn't necessarily make it a race car, I drive my turbo D here in miami everyday and still get 30 mpg.

 

lets say money is no issue and lets keep it b-series please

 

USDM GSR SWAP+
OPEN HEADERS+
DRAG RADIALS+
4DR EG FULL INTERIOR+
STOCK PR3 ECU MID 15'S

HONDATA S100 +SKUNK2 IM
LOW 15'S
http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda....html
you can also check others times` but don't belive those stock soch motors running 14's
hope this is what your looking for

 

After having a turbo GSR, i would never again bother with menial gains from NA bolt-on parts. Save up a little money and build a reliable turbo setup. I've made 315whp on my stock block GSR for 2 years AND its my daily. This summer i'm shooting for over 400whp on the stock block with E85.

...its all in the tune

 

in what range would that be in $$ wise? you got a stock block but you got low compression internals and all that good stuff?............. any b18c5 out there specifically


Modified by 93WhiteHatch at 11:45 PM 3/25/2008

 

i personally think that if you'd just do some basic bolt-ons, maybe cams, and suspension you would be happy...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93WhiteHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in what range would that be in $$ wise? you got a stock block but you got low compression internals and all that good stuff?............. any b18c5 out there specifically </TD></TR></TABLE>


For a simple kit, you could spend $2k, but i would plan for about $3k for everything. Also, when i say "stock block" i mean 100% OEM Honda from valve cover to oil pan. The stock P72 cast pistons, stock rods, bone stock head, etc....

If you have an B18C5, you still wont have to worry. With the correct setup and tune, you can still push 300-350whp depending on the fuel you have available to you. I know several people in the FI forum who have made over 325whp on stock ITRs. Dont start thinking that because it has higher compression, that its not capable of decent numbers with a turbo setup.

Research the FI forum and you'll find a lot of good info that may just convince you to join the dark side

 

h22 ftw

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stock99si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">h22 ftw </TD></TR></TABLE>

For the price of an H22 swap, you could build a turbo setup and see much better power gains.


Modified by Schister66 at 9:17 AM 3/26/2008

 

get the good ol' b18c5 cant go wrong.....


thats the plan for my em1

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by da6er &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get the good ol' b18c5 cant go wrong.....


thats the plan for my em1 </TD></TR></TABLE>

Again, i dont understand why you'd opt for an engine swap to gain 15whp when you could build a turbo setup for about the same price and gain 150+whp. Unless you have to deal with emissions and inspections, boost would be best option.

 

im not down with turbo N/A is best.. with a c5 youll gain 60+ HP.

ive been around turbo honda all day and they just blow up if you dont build it rite and that cost way more then a swap. if you want turbo get a toyota or a S14 and say [freak] it.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Again, i dont understand why you'd opt for an engine swap to gain 15whp when you could build a turbo setup for about the same price and gain 150+whp. Unless you have to deal with emissions and inspections, boost would be best option.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

i am debating weather to get b18c5 or just boost my b16 i drive my car everyday i do need something reliable to get me to and from school/work

 

if you boost it get a LS tranny for the long gears. <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93WhiteHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am debating weather to get b18c5 or just boost my b16 i drive my car everyday i do need something reliable to get me to and from school/work i would like to be in a good daily with a quarter mile time of 13s high mid </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

boost it on like 7 pounds.. youll never want to run na ever again

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by da6er &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you boost it get a LS tranny for the long gears. </TD></TR></TABLE> no sir, keep the b16 and put a ls 5th gear in for highway/cruising...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wonderB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">boost it on like 7 pounds.. youll never want to run na ever again</TD></TR></TABLE>QFT

 

THATS NOT A BAD IDEA...

I STILL SAY C5 IT LOL.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egmatt93 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> no sir, keep the b16 and put a ls 5th gear in for highway/cruising...

QFT </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by da6er &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive been around turbo honda all day and they just blow up if you dont build it rite</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lets see...i've had a stock block at 300+whp for 2 years and beat it up constantly as it's my daily driver. I had no problems until recently when i had a small oil leak (unrelated to the turbo setup) which caused me to spin a bearing.

To the OP: if you dont skimp on parts and aren't a total retard, like the people that Da6er is obviously referring to, you shouldn't have any problems with reliability. I think if there's someone you can take advice from on turbo setups, its probably me...not to toot my own horn, but i've been doing it for a while and must have done something right....i am the FI moderator

 

I GET WHAT YOUR SAYING IM JUST NOT DOWN FOR A TURBO HONDA. PEOPLE SAID THE SAME THING ABOUT MY LS VTEC THAT IT WOULD JUST BLOW UP BUT I HAD IT FOR 3 YEARS AND SOLD IT TO A FRIEND THAT STILL HAS IT. ANY MOTOR AND ANY SET UP CAN WORK IF ITS BUILT RITE.


ALL IM SAYIN.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Lets see...i've had a stock block at 300+whp for 2 years and beat it up constantly as it's my daily driver. I had no problems until recently when i had a small oil leak (unrelated to the turbo setup) which caused me to spin a bearing.

To the OP: if you dont skimp on parts and aren't a total retard, like the people that Da6er is obviously referring to, you shouldn't have any problems with reliability. I think if there's someone you can take advice from on turbo setups, its probably me...not to toot my own horn, but i've been doing it for a while and must have done something right....i am the FI moderator </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by da6er &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ANY MOTOR AND ANY SET UP CAN WORK IF ITS BUILT RITE.</TD></TR></TABLE>

In order to build a reliable turbo setup you only need to do a few things:

-buy quality parts
-dont cut corners
-dont buy Ebay anything
-buy a decent EMS (meaning chipped ECU)
-spend money on a reliable tune

The tune is one of the most important parts of a setup; however, most people feel that they can half *** a tune. Those people are the ones who end up having problems. Healthy engines that are tuned right and maintained will not have problems...its as simple as that

 

I FEEL YA MAN.

IM JUST A N.A GUY IS ALL <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

In order to build a reliable turbo setup you only need to do a few things:

-buy quality parts
-dont cut corners
-dont buy Ebay anything
-buy a decent EMS (meaning chipped ECU)
-spend money on a reliable tune

The tune is one of the most important parts of a setup; however, most people feel that they can half *** a tune. Those people are the ones who end up having problems. Healthy engines that are tuned right and maintained will not have problems...its as simple as that</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

whats would be a good kit to daily it and putting down aroun 300whp??? im not looking for nothing crazy and would like it to be ac compatible

 

i guess my ques ccomes down to 18c5 vs boosted b16 best for daily with a little power to have some fun?

 

just buy a b20 block and build na. i think your in cali so, since money isnt an issue buy the ***** and build it and get some itb's for track purposes.