Is this the new trend? Has anyone done it to their rotors. People say it makes your rotors last 100%-300% longer. I'm getting Brembo Blanks soon and I want to know if it is worth it.

Thanks

 

lets see, if you freeze them and never use them they last practically forever.... i guess its true

 

John Wayne isnt dead. He's frozen!!!!

 

yea if u freeze them then use them then they wont be frozen anymore and they will just be brakes?

 

brembo blanks....25 bucks each.

this freezing crap sounds pretty expensive. is it worth it on such a wear item?

 

lol

 

Hey if Ted Williams is doing it, it must be good for brakes too.

 

austin powers was cryogenically frozen and he worked fine untill he lost his mojo

 

note to self : dont get frozen ...mojo will fall off

 

Since replacement brake rotors for the Type R are relatively cheap - it is a judgement call as to whether cryogenically treating the rotors will offer you much of an advantage. It all depends on the intensity and frequency of the intended use. If all you do is daily driving - you are not even getting the rotors up to what would be considered a high temperature. Now if you are doing endurance racing in a stock class type of bracket - then cryogenics can offer you significant improvements in durability.

Cryogenic treatment makes more sense if you are using expensive two piece vaned rotors like Stoptechs. Cryogenic treatment of metal has been around for a long time - the initial capital investment involved in purchasing the necessary equipment has been the largest hinderance to its larger availability.

I found this on a website FYI:

What is cryogenic treatment ? It is cold treating materials at minus 300°F to improve their properties. The one-time deep cryogenic process increases abrasion resistance while decreasing residual stresses; and increases part and/or tool life up to 300% longer while providing the solution to your wear problems.
Cryogenic processing has been around for many years, but it has been refined using computer-controlled cooling and reheating. Due to recent developments, the Deep Cryogenic Tempering process for metals is inexpensive ( i.e., approximately 5 -10% of the cost of the tool). When you consider the increased tool life of up to 300%, it is extremely cost-effective.

The advantage the cryogenic process brings to you is a significant increase in abrasive wear resistance and durability. These are accompanied by increases in tensile strength, toughness and stability coupled with the release of internal residual stresses.

Cryogenic tempering has a variety of uses, including:

Drill bits End mills Granulators Progressive dies

Punch dies Hammermills Extruders Forging dies

Slicers Circular slitters Cutters Gears Hobs

Crankshafts Musical Instruments Bearings

Shear blades Pistons Engines Rocker levers Blocks

Cams Gun barrels Knifes Golf equipment Sports Equipment

Brake rotors Ring/Pinion Transmissions Carbide inserts

 

freeze the brakes and then sell the DNA in 10 years for big cash

 

Bob Baundarant (sp?) Racing school uses the cryogenic treatment on there rotors.

On a side note the school gets there brake stuff thru Baer Racing and then they sent it to Nitro Tech to have it cryo'ed. But Baer Racing does not offer this as an option? Why? Maybe they think it's BS I don't really know.

P.S. I want to to know it helps with cams??


[Modified by rolow, 9:12 PM 7/9/2002]

 

hmmmm...so i can freeze my pecker and it'll be 300 % stronger....forget viagra

 

but really cold.....

 

some people swear by this method

contact Zygspeed (or wait till he sees this)

I'm gonna try it with the next blanks I get , theres a company around PA that said 30 each and he just throws them in with the rest of the stuff when they run the machine
he runs it from friday to monday and ships them back out tuesday

I can post his contact info if needed , I dont have it on me right now

 

Im getting my bottom end cryo'ed

 

Yep. I've had mine done. I had the fronts of my '99 Civic Si done as well. As well as the Geo Prism GSi that I had. Interestingly, the '90 Prism had to have the rotors replaced once in 1994. I had the new rotors cryoed and installed. Kept the car until summer of '99 [when I picked up the Si] with no issues. I did replace the pads twice in that time. Combined I had 150k miles on the car with 80k of it on the cryoed rotors.

Check out Race Tech magazine and Race Car Engineering magazines. They've both done indepth articles on cryoing and one article specifically covered brake rotors. 300% longer life in track conditions... Also check out Road Racing World [Great article featuring the benefits of cryoing engine parts on race bikes. BTW, a VERY well-known cyl hd mfgr for bikes cryos their cyl hds both before and after machining.], Performance Shooter and Tactical Shooter magazines for detailed articles on the benefits of cryogenics. I can speak personally about the rifle barrel benefits: INcreased accuracy, DEcreased fouling.


[Modified by Chui, 3:10 PM 7/9/2002]

 

I'm just wondering
what other parts can be cyro treated????

 

The engine block. The crank. The rods. The cyl hd. The valve springs [uncompressed], the valves and valve stems.

The entire engine can be, but there can be no stress [uncompressed] can be on the springs or they'll "set" with the reduced length.

 

wonder how much all the engine components would run?

 

If your in the northwest, try NWcryo, they have pretty good prices, and they run them on their race cars, so they have first hand experience.

 

For large components I was quoted $5 per lb. For small things like a barreled action I think they charged me something on the order of $30 to $40 which is still around ~$5 per lb.

Give some people a call. It's already well-known in racing circles and compeitive shooting circles. In fact, Tiger Woods' clubs come to Hazel Park, MI for deep cryogenic tempering as do rather large components for satellites, both of which I saw with my own eyes. Very neat stuff.